They were sabotaged. Ukraine was ready to make concessions, but the UK and US stepped in and said no. These were absolutely peace talks, as they would have ended the conflict.
I know full-well how to spot propaganda, anything trying to convince someone of something is propaganda. Reading through bias and analyzing the source facts is necessary.
Ukraine absolutely was not. They were never going to let Russia just invade them and take land. That’s a fallacy.
They may have done in 2014 under a pro-Russia government when they weren’t prepared but this time they were.
There is zero evidence of the peace talks nor of Us and UK sabotaging them or telling them to not accept. That is disinformation.
Russia has not sued for peace. Any time they have approached potential talks especially with the Orangutan, Russia have attacked harder both pre and post “negotiations”.
It isn’t disinformation, it’s proven fact. You can’t just say reality doesn’t exist and that Russia is going to turn around while they are winning, life is not a marvel movie.
Russia isn’t going to do whatever you personally want them to, especially when they are on track to get all of their stated goals accomplished. “Should” doesn’t mean anything.
Further, more sources on the west sabotaging peace talks:
Definitionally, yes. The EU and NATO are right-wing, imperialist coalitions that expropriate vast sums of wealth from the global south. All of them are dictatorships of capital.
They were sabotaged. Ukraine was ready to make concessions, but the UK and US stepped in and said no. These were absolutely peace talks, as they would have ended the conflict.
I know full-well how to spot propaganda, anything trying to convince someone of something is propaganda. Reading through bias and analyzing the source facts is necessary.
Ukraine absolutely was not. They were never going to let Russia just invade them and take land. That’s a fallacy.
They may have done in 2014 under a pro-Russia government when they weren’t prepared but this time they were.
There is zero evidence of the peace talks nor of Us and UK sabotaging them or telling them to not accept. That is disinformation.
Russia has not sued for peace. Any time they have approached potential talks especially with the Orangutan, Russia have attacked harder both pre and post “negotiations”.
Oh really? Which fallacy?
All of it
Lol. What are you even trying to say?
What are you trying to say? That Ukraine is happy to give up land?
???
It isn’t disinformation, it’s proven fact. You can’t just say reality doesn’t exist and that Russia is going to turn around while they are winning, life is not a marvel movie.
I didn’t say they would. I said they should.
What has a marvel movie got to do with anything? Superheroes aren’t real.
While we are posting links. Here. https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/us-and-boris-johnson-forced-ukraine-not-to-sign-the-peace-deal-in-istanbul/
Russia isn’t going to do whatever you personally want them to, especially when they are on track to get all of their stated goals accomplished. “Should” doesn’t mean anything.
Further, more sources on the west sabotaging peace talks:
Linking a right-wing website trying to depict everything as kremlin propaganda doesn’t overtake the facts.
Wait, my link was right wing?
Yes, it’s a pro-EU, pro-NATO source.
And that’s right wing to you is it
Definitionally, yes. The EU and NATO are right-wing, imperialist coalitions that expropriate vast sums of wealth from the global south. All of them are dictatorships of capital.