• AmericanEconomicThinkTank@lemmy.world
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    Never talk about unionizing on company time, on company property, or with someone else that is, and especially with someone unvetted.

    Keep it private, keep it quiet.

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      developers usually know what’s up. assassin’s creed 4, a pirate game that mimicked the assassin’s creed series that ended with ac3, made the templar’s modern day front, abstergo, into a ubisoft parody. in that game abstergo literally makes assassin’s creed games with ulterior motives. it was almost like the devs were going “man, fuck this dumbass company” and did that as a middle finger to their bosses.

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    Previously decided never to buy a Rockstar game again (after an unplayable PC port on GTA 4) this just crystallizes that decision

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    It was like 5 years ago but I heard a family friend working there was making 27k as a mid level dev.

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      At a certain point the blame lies with the worker, I am pro union but jesus have some self respect and look for better.

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        Game dev is predatory because people can and will do it for free. Many “dream jobs” have this issue.

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      I pretty much only buy indie games at this point. Any game made by a company that benefits a stock ticker? You best believe I’m… (checks what comm I’m in) …Acquiring it. Lol

      Funnily enough the one exception to this rule that I probably would have made was BF6 but they forced me to sit this one out by barring Linux users 🤷‍♂️ So I’m playing Outer Worlds 2 instead rn.

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        Funnily enough the one exception to this rule that I probably would have made was BF6 but they forced me to sit this one out by barring Linux users 🤷‍♂️ So I’m playing Outer Worlds 2 instead rn.

        For some good battlefield alternatives that run great on Linux check out ->

        Easy Red 2

        https://store.steampowered.com/app/1324780/Easy_Red_2/

        Operation Harsh Doorstop

        https://store.steampowered.com/app/736590/Operation_Harsh_Doorstop/

        and Angels Fall First

        https://store.steampowered.com/app/367270/Angels_Fall_First/

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          So I’m playing Outer Worlds 2 instead rn.

          Oh, thanks. I didn’t know that that was out until you mentioned it.

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          Thanks for the recommendations! Especially Easy Red 2 👀

          I am a big fan of the Red Orchestra/Rising Storm series and there is a mod coming out soon for Rising Storm 2 called Black Orchestra that I’m planning to fill the Battlefield shaped hole in my heart with. It’s in beta right now, but you best believe I’ll be letting everyone know about it when it hits steam.

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        I tried downloading the BF6 free demo and I had to jump through a bunch of hoops trying to get it to run just to find that because the last time I used my EA account was a decade ago, my Steam account is banned from their servers until I go through customer support to unlock it.

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        And that last bit is wild because the one that doesn’t require Windows for PC gamers is the one owned by Microsoft.

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        I’m the same way. I might have got BF6, I played the beta and fell in love cause it felt like BC2 which was my favorite BF game.

        Sadly the hoops I had to jump through to even get it to work on a windows system, let alone getting it to work on my Debian system, combined with the price tag was enough to hard push me away from buying it.

        It’s a shame because the game was stupid levels of fun, and felt organic. They just are out-casting their userbase by their decisions to block Non-Windows systems.

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      I think this comment will age like milk once GTA6 has been out on PC for a decade

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      I know you’re being sarcastic, but if does point out the fact that capitalism is only held in check by government. RockStar obviously waited until they knew they could get away with it given the current attitudes in all branches of the US government.

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      Like y’all don’t know what to do with GTA VI.

      Wait 2 goddamn extra years or however long until they release it for PC.

      The good news is by then I can easily justify upgrading my PC too. Right now it’s hard to justify upgrading from my RTX 3060 Ti, but by 2027 or 2028 when the PC version comes out, I’m sure that there’s something enticing available from all 3 GPU manufacturers (yay, we almost have competition now) and I can get the hell off Nvidia again finally.

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          Ugh I hope if it doesn’t they’ll at least sell it off to someone who can realistically keep it running. Though I have no idea who that would be at this point.

          It’s going to suck if we’re back to the duopoly.

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      Rockstar have been pieces of shit for decades. Didn’t change anything then, and unfortunately, it probably won’t now.

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    “Gross misconduct, and no other reason”… from 30 people at once? And they’re not going to elaborate on what the “misconduct” was?

    Maybe we’re supposed to believe the fact they were all part of the same discussion to unionize was a coincidence, too?

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      My best bet is the Discord server had internal Rockstar files, and their angle is these files should have never been put on external servers, and that other Discord members should have reported it

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    GTA6 will still sell millions of copies, many to people in threads just like this one that are appalled at RS’s action.

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      Most people buying it will not know about this

      Many would not care

      A lot think that it is not their job punishing companies over how they treat their employees

      I think it is the government’s job to make laws that empower people taking jobs over people giving jobs, but as well, in my opinion, each and everyone has the responsibility to watch over government that they do the job right

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        I think it’s a bit self-indulgent to consider that this is big-brained or world-shattering to people. You’re just repeating the dominant explanation for why these companies can make profit despite their immorality, it isn’t challenging or new.

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      It’s important to make a distinction between liberals who strive for moral purity through performativity, and people who value human life by recognizing the inequalities in labour and material security under capitalism. Narratives that reproduce the idea that people are just fundamentally impure and can’t stick to their values only strengthens liberalism’s claim to morality.

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      Your point?

      E: just want to make clear, the attribution of apathy or nihilism to the general pubic isn’t genuine or useful.

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        Companies can do whatever they want and it literally doesn’t matter because they will keep making money

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        The point is people are impressively stupid and impulsive

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        This is the most disheartening reply, but also the most telling.

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          It’s difficult to read this and not feel less empathetic toward you. Such desperation to feel superior without any clear indication that you are invested in actually embodying a set of morals yourself.

          If you care, you should take the time to explore inconvenient explanations for why this happens and refuse satisfaction with actionless answers.

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            I live my life as simply as possible, and I don’t feel superior to anyone. Having said that I stand by my reply. Just because it evoked some feeling of shame from you isn’t my problem.

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              “… I don’t feel superior to anyone… . … evoked some feeling of shame from you isn’t my problem.” You can’t even pretend to be an honest person without trying to suggest other people are less morally pure than you. This is not a simple life, it is a dishonest one. I will not be responding again, obviously. There’s no conversing with people who lie to themselves.

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        This is a good question to ask. This person is not very critical of what they’ve said and is clearly satisfied with liberal (as in liberalism) explanations for people’s behaviour.

        Their point is that people are just fundamentally bad and that is why these companies make profit despite an apparently universal condemnation of their actions. It’s shallow, inaccurate, and is only useful to feel morally superior to some imagined decadent group that they believe is the source of this problem.