• theneverfox@pawb.social
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    23 hours ago

    Liberals don’t believe in capitalism… No one does. It’s descriptive, not prescriptive

    Liberals believe in rules. That you can tweak the rules and eventually you’ll end up with a perfect system of government

    Obviously that doesn’t work, but a true liberal is a midwit with good intentions. I’d take that all day right now

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      13 hours ago

      “language is descriptive, not prescriptive”

      Gods, what an utterly myopic defense. You do know there is a difference between colloquial language for the purpose of simple communication and theoretical language for the purpose of in-depth systemic analysis, right?

      Don’t make excuses for being willfully ignorant of political theory.

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        10 hours ago

        I think I’m making an important point here.

        It’s really important that we stop pretending that these people believe their bullshit. The difference between liberals and the neo-liberals we have now isn’t more belief in capitalism, it’s that they’ve been bribed directly and indirectly

        If you say they believe in capitalism, you’re giving ground. There’s an implication that they believe their actions will lead to better outcomes… But they so obviously don’t

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      17 hours ago

      Liberals are literally the source of capitalism and capitalism is the source of liberals. They are undeniably linked. The liberal Revolution was the capitalist Revolution. You cannot have one without the other. They adhere to the capitalist mindset brutally and without question. The last 300 years of human history is that story.

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      20 hours ago

      Liberals believe in strong private property rights, which is one of the most core tenents of how capitalism works. It allows capitalists to accumulate their private property and hold it for profit. And by “believe”, I mean they advocate for this dynamic / structure.

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        10 hours ago

        I think that’s a really good point. Strong property rights is a better way to put it, I’m going to add that from now on

        But the reason why I’m splitting hairs is because we’re at the point where they’re trying to privatize the FAA. In fact, they partially have under Trump 1, which is why the planes are breaking - we let airline companies inspect themselves

        And it’s not because Republicans believe in capitalism

        The problem we have isn’t some belief system, it’s just naked corruption

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          6 hours ago

          Correct. While a lot of conservatives are liberals to some extent, a large number of them are becoming increasingly fascist. I appreciate this dialog we had here.