As weird as the title sounds, my family really dislikes me using Tuta and not Gmail. Is your family also like this?

“Come on, Sarah, can’t you just be normal and use Gmail like everyone?”

  • my mom, scolding me.
  • slacktoid@lemmy.mlEnglish
    10·
    1 day ago

    Ask her if all her friends jumped down a cliff would she also jump down a cliff?

  • monovergent@lemmy.ml
    5·
    1 day ago

    No, they respect my goals and seem to have accepted that I’m sometimes just unreachable. The only thing they might be annoyed about is my GrapheneOS and Signal proselytism. If anything, it’s more apathy than antagonism. They’ll agree with me on privacy issues but rarely ever give up the conveniences of Apple, Microsoft, Google, etc. in practice.

  • helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world
    7·
    1 day ago

    Tell her; “no mom, if some 30 year old man was tracking me, reading my mail, texts and tracked my location you’d be getting ready to murder him. Why should I let gmail get away with the same shit?”

  • vapeloki@lemmy.world
    34·
    2 days ago
    • it you would have WhatsApp, we could keep in contact
    • oh, come one, we have a Facebook Family group
    • can’t you just share a Google calendar with me
    • …
  • Zak@lemmy.world
    12·
    2 days ago

    I’ll expand this question to my entire social circle.

    I haven’t found that anybody cares about my email provider. It doesn’t affect them because email is federated. Nobody has ever asked me why I’m mailing them from a domain I own rather than a service provider they’ve heard of.

    Where I do run into a lot of resistance is trying to get people to use Signal. Some people seem to find the concept of having multiple messaging apps objectionable, which has never made any sense to me as long as they have basic computer skills. On occasion, I’m on the other side of that conversation when I’m unwilling to use Facebook Messenger for reasons that should be obvious to anyone in this community.

  • Twongo [she/her]@lemmy.ml
    23·
    2 days ago

    my mental health was questioned so there’s that.

    my explaination about surveillance capitalism and what possibilities corporations have to spy on us fell on deaf ears and raised concern. i got called “paranoid” and also “stupid”

    • Fushuan [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      2·
      19 hours ago

      My answer is that I have a degree in CS and I work on the field. I know what I’m talking about. I literally work in the massive data processing field (not tracking, bank data but still).

      “No, they are not listening to me through the microphone of my phone. They don’t need to, that’s the scary part.”

  • not_me@piefed.socialEnglish
    281·
    1 day ago

    Start using linux and install graphene on your phone ,all hell breaks lose

  • Autonomous User@lemmy.worldEnglish
    92·
    17 hours ago
    • Never defend. Always make a good attack.
    • Never say privacy. Never get dragged into tech yapping. Always say control, power, scam and abuse.
    • Never lead with gains. Human care most about loss. Always focus on loss.

    Something like:

    Watching big tech gape my inbox was never normal but, if you’re into that, I’m not judging you.

  • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
    13·
    2 days ago

    That’s literally everyone I know. They dont care about massive tech corps stealing everything. They have no clue they are feeding the machin e free data every time they use their shitty ai services. Drives me nuts.

  • TheOSINTguy@sh.itjust.works
    10·
    2 days ago

    Same here, while this was a few years back it’s still relevant. My girlfriends parents are helicopter parents and would have a back door into everything if they could. So the one day I noticed that her mother had said to me that she doesn’t mind us going to movies two weeks from then. This was only said between the two of us in a text. This was a good opportunity to switch her over to signal. She asked me if there is a way to check if she was in anything else so I had her change password and move over to a password manager instead of the paper notebook in her room that her mother probably looked through.

    Only a week later her mother did look through that notebook at one point for passwords because because she openly asked for it one day “so she could check her school email for scholarship information”, didn’t ask for just the password, but the whole notebook. From what I remember my girlfriend had a conversation with her mother about privacy that would turn into an argument.

    Moral of the story, even people you are told you are supposed to trust aren’t trustworthy.

  • Lumidaub@feddit.orgEnglish
    14·
    2 days ago

    Huh? What difference does it make to them…?

    Wait, thinking about it, is it because name at gmail is easier to remember for them? Because gmail is the “standard” in their minds?

    • cRazi_man@europe.pub
      221·
      2 days ago

      Normies find it triggering if things take extra steps or aren’t proceeding in the normal way they expect.

      My family (and wife especially) get triggered…“why can’t we just be normal and use Netflix, why do we have to tolerate any buffering on your Jellyfin thing. What was the email address you use again? Why don’t you just use WhatsApp like everyone else, no one uses this Signal nonsense. I’m sending you photos on Google Photos or WhatsApp, why should I have to figure out adding them to you NAS drop folder. What is this MailBox nonsense, why don’t you just share your calendar from google calendar”.

      A lot of tech tools are social tools. Other people don’t want to think about this stuff. They don’t care about stuff that doesnt affect them. They don’t care about my FreshRSS feeds, that doesnt affect them. But they do care that I can’t send them photos on Google Photos.

      • AtariDump@lemmy.world
        11·
        6 hours ago

        And sometimes regular people want things to work with minimal friction.

        why can’t we just be normal and use Netflix, why do we have to tolerate any buffering on your Jellyfin thing

        I’ve run Jellyfin and I get this; you must not have something serious correctly, your bandwidth sucks, or it’s a bug in Jellyfin. Either way, that’s friction.

        I’m sending you photos on Google Photos or WhatsApp, why should I have to figure out adding them to you NAS drop folder.

        Again, friction. Google Photos and WhatsApp is easy. I guarantee you’ve setup something that you think is cool but is just a PITA.

        I’d be like if a mechanic setup this car so that everything was opposite to make it difficult to steal; gas on the left and brake on the right, turn signal on the left, etc etc. sure he thinks it’s cool and when he drives it it’s fine, but it’s a PITA for anyone else to drive his car. And he asks people to drive his car constantly to show them how cool it is because of all the work he put into it.

        And don’t call people “normies”. You sound like you live in you mom’s basement when you say that.

        Edit: Looks like I struck a nerve.

    • Meow-Misfit@lemmy.worldOP
      2·
      2 days ago

      Probably. But my parents are really crazy. This kind of thing was kinda expectable over the guys who start to yell at each other because of a pot’s shape.

  • thermogel@lemmy.ml
    8·
    2 days ago

    I have found that even when people are conscious of the “technocratic & surveillance” state of the world, they still dont change their habits. Just like “this sucks” but they dont bother on looking for alternatives.

    Even when I tell them about E2EE services, or the fediverse, they’re like “that sounds awesome”, but they never try it. Once I had a friend try Pixelfed and they loved it! I was so happy hehe but it goes stale after a few days, since other friends didnt switch. But were both telling others to switch sometimes.

    My family uses Life360 for safety or emergencies, and I managed to switch them over to Paralino. It was all working seamlessly until they suddenly decided they wanted to go back, for whatever reason. I don’t know what it was, they wouldnt say, but it frustrates me that they would prefer giving out all out location info in rreal time to a company that has had many breaches and has sold such data, compared to a small one that can’t even access such data, and its just a few bucks. Idunno.