• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    No, because far less than 100% of Americans are voters, and the 15% is about Americans not voters…

    Even then, pretty sure he didn’t get 50% of the votes.

    So however you meant what you said, you’re wrong.

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      1 day ago

      About 22% of all Americans (not just voters) voted for him in 2024. So there’s still millions of people who voted for him and believed he knew.

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      16 hours ago

      not how statistics work. percentages apply to sample of any size.

      imagine there were 100 voters in the last elections. trump got 50 of them and if he got all of this 15% group (unlikely, but it actually plays in his favor in this argument). that means 50*0,70=35 of his voters believed he was guilty and voted for him anyway.

      if someone asks why 0,70 and not 0,85 (1-0,15) it is based on assumption that the we believe he is not guilty group was largely voting for him, which is not unreasonable assumption. if some of them were actually voting for democrats, that makes the number of people voting for him despite believing he is a child rapist even higher.

      (this argument indeed ignores shift of this number in time).

      Even then, pretty sure he didn’t get 50% of the votes.

      even though it is irrelevant in this argument - he got 49.80% of votes and he won popular vote with 77,3M against harris’s 75M votes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election#Results

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        11 hours ago

        not how statistics work

        Correct, everything after that sentence infers youve never taken even a basic statistics course…

        Are you just going off highschool math when they taught you percentages?

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          3 hours ago

          Are you just going off highschool math when they taught you percentages?

          are you going off elementary one where they did not? 😂

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            3 hours ago

            I was genuinely asking because it makes sense how someone could make your mistakes if they never actually took a stats course…

            Although, I admit there was a joking implication that percentages weren’t taught till then, but…

            are you going off elementary one where they did not? 😂

            It kind of sounds like you really didn’t get to percentages till at least jr high.

            I’m sorry if I upset you and you just reflexively lashed out, but you’re never gonna learn more if you keep responding to people who want to help like that.

            I could have spent this time explaining stats instead of why asking questions is best when you’re confused.

            Best of luck tho.