they spent the last 100 years making the perfect anal rod that goes in the engine ball bearing, and it’s amazing, reliable, only needs a change every 10 years, classic toyota
but ev’s don’t have one so that knowledge on how to make the perfect anal rod is worthless
ultimately the difference in reliability between an ev and a toyota isn’t really that far apart, and once people catch on unless toyota innovates they’re living out their kodak days right now imo
unless toyota innovates they’re living out their kodak days right now imo
Toyota sold hybrids in 1997. A decade before anyone else. Then Plugin hybrids. Billions of gallons of oil saved.
They aren’t Tesla, they actually have to sell cars to make money. Toyota CEO was heavily criticized for avoiding EVs, but all Detroit auto makers have pissed away billions on EVs no one bought. Y’all talk about making EVs, but you don’t actually buy them. He stuck to hybrids and Toyota sales are highest on hybrids, and yet he was forced to resign because of investor pressure because they thought EVs were the future 5 years ago and Elon Musk was a Jeanius: that never happened.
Late 2026, Toyota will be selling EVs with solid state batteries, way before Tesla and most EV manufacturers. Spoiler alert: they won’t break every month or fry children alive with hidden door locks and fake FSD.
A CEO has to placate MAGA because his job is to sell cars in the USA, and Toyota has been the only Japanese carmaker in NASCAR. They sell to rednecks. So playing up to a demented man child a country elected, twice, is what he has to do.
and this is in australia where everyone needs to drive 1000km to get to the shops
also tbf there’s a lot of disinformation out there, i’ve spoken to people who thought the ev battery was the same as a phone battery and died after 5 years (of course it immediately caught on fire then burnt my house down right 🤣)
nevermind the legions of paid fud from oil companies and useful idiots on facebook
Spoiler alert: they won’t break every month
evs don’t break every month, thats what im trying to say, they have barely any maintenance at all, ev car maintenance involves checking the brakes for rust because they don’t get used and topping up windscreen wiper fluid
toyotas brand is linked to the reliability of an engine that doesn’t exist in an ev
like 90% of people who buy an ev don’t go back to petrol, once this becomes obvious to the mainstream toyota will lose a lot of brand cred
Well when the discussion is centering around “I wont buy brand X because of this behavior,” it should be pointed out when every other brand is engaging in the same behavior. This is the type of blindspot you get from an echo chamber.
The difference is assuming, rather than looking for evidence, and then doubling down like now, after being told that at least one automaker is making a point of not making political overtures.
If you care to pore over my post history, you will see plenty of comments from me making the same point to people saying, “I won’t buy an EV because of all the privacy violations,” with me responding, “All new cars have this problem, ICE or EV.” They then respond with, “Well, that’s why I won’t buy a car made after x year,” to which I respond, “Then why mention EVs at all?”
If you don’t want to bother educating yourself before making sweeping statements, don’t be surprised if someone calls you out on it, echo chamber or no.
Youre not “calling me out” on anything you’re just being a contrarian and sanctimonious buffoon and you quite embarrassingly don’t even have your facts right.
So, using the handy little tool you referenced, I scrolled down to see how much of those contributions were from individuals associated with Honda, versus contributions from the Corporation. We’ll, the total from Honda, since 1990, was $324k. The total that wasn’t from individuals, from the Honda corporation, was…$0. Meanwhile, if you want to find a year where that’s applicable to Toyota, you will have to go back to 2012, the furthest back that the history (easily) allows you to go on that site. And their total from corporate and individuals comes in at $8.9M.
I thought this was leading up to some dick joke lol, I’m sure they have done a lot more work than just some specific rod that makes their cars a good value for customers, also most vehicles on the road all over that world are ICE, EV adoption is not gonna suddenly go up overnight as it needs a large charging network to function and governments would not allow the pandemonium of the value of oil suddenly dipping considering all theve done to get that oil, so they have enough time to work on designing their own EV lineup of cars
tbf i understand why they’re upset
they spent the last 100 years making the perfect anal rod that goes in the engine ball bearing, and it’s amazing, reliable, only needs a change every 10 years, classic toyota
but ev’s don’t have one so that knowledge on how to make the perfect anal rod is worthless
ultimately the difference in reliability between an ev and a toyota isn’t really that far apart, and once people catch on unless toyota innovates they’re living out their kodak days right now imo
Toyota sold hybrids in 1997. A decade before anyone else. Then Plugin hybrids. Billions of gallons of oil saved.
They aren’t Tesla, they actually have to sell cars to make money. Toyota CEO was heavily criticized for avoiding EVs, but all Detroit auto makers have pissed away billions on EVs no one bought. Y’all talk about making EVs, but you don’t actually buy them. He stuck to hybrids and Toyota sales are highest on hybrids, and yet he was forced to resign because of investor pressure because they thought EVs were the future 5 years ago and Elon Musk was a Jeanius: that never happened.
Late 2026, Toyota will be selling EVs with solid state batteries, way before Tesla and most EV manufacturers. Spoiler alert: they won’t break every month or fry children alive with hidden door locks and fake FSD.
A CEO has to placate MAGA because his job is to sell cars in the USA, and Toyota has been the only Japanese carmaker in NASCAR. They sell to rednecks. So playing up to a demented man child a country elected, twice, is what he has to do.
just about everyone is racing for solid state
https://insideevs.com/news/771402/every-solid-state-battery-ev/
most believe china will get there first as they have the most experience with battery tech
ev sales are higher than ever?
https://www.aaa.asn.au/2025/11/electric-vehicle-sales-break-records/
and this is in australia where everyone needs to drive 1000km to get to the shops
also tbf there’s a lot of disinformation out there, i’ve spoken to people who thought the ev battery was the same as a phone battery and died after 5 years (of course it immediately caught on fire then burnt my house down right 🤣)
nevermind the legions of paid fud from oil companies and useful idiots on facebook
evs don’t break every month, thats what im trying to say, they have barely any maintenance at all, ev car maintenance involves checking the brakes for rust because they don’t get used and topping up windscreen wiper fluid
toyotas brand is linked to the reliability of an engine that doesn’t exist in an ev
like 90% of people who buy an ev don’t go back to petrol, once this becomes obvious to the mainstream toyota will lose a lot of brand cred
They don’t just placate MAGA. The Toyota PAC spends money to support MAGA candidates.
They spend on each, but generally more to Republicans.
https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/C00542365/summary/2024
Now do all the other automakers. I bet the results will look the same.
Honda has a policy of not making political donations.
Well, as long as everyone is being shitty, I guess we shouldn’t mention how they’re shitty. Except apparently some aren’t.
Well when the discussion is centering around “I wont buy brand X because of this behavior,” it should be pointed out when every other brand is engaging in the same behavior. This is the type of blindspot you get from an echo chamber.
The difference is assuming, rather than looking for evidence, and then doubling down like now, after being told that at least one automaker is making a point of not making political overtures.
If you care to pore over my post history, you will see plenty of comments from me making the same point to people saying, “I won’t buy an EV because of all the privacy violations,” with me responding, “All new cars have this problem, ICE or EV.” They then respond with, “Well, that’s why I won’t buy a car made after x year,” to which I respond, “Then why mention EVs at all?”
If you don’t want to bother educating yourself before making sweeping statements, don’t be surprised if someone calls you out on it, echo chamber or no.
You mean like you’re doing right now?
“Being told” something is now considered irrefutable evidence and if I don’t simply accept what I’m “being told” that’s being “uneducated?”
Oh, what’s this?
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/honda-motor-co/summary?id=D000042345
Youre not “calling me out” on anything you’re just being a contrarian and sanctimonious buffoon and you quite embarrassingly don’t even have your facts right.
What a joke and over something so innocuous too…
So, using the handy little tool you referenced, I scrolled down to see how much of those contributions were from individuals associated with Honda, versus contributions from the Corporation. We’ll, the total from Honda, since 1990, was $324k. The total that wasn’t from individuals, from the Honda corporation, was…$0. Meanwhile, if you want to find a year where that’s applicable to Toyota, you will have to go back to 2012, the furthest back that the history (easily) allows you to go on that site. And their total from corporate and individuals comes in at $8.9M.
My embarrassment knows no bounds.
I thought this was leading up to some dick joke lol, I’m sure they have done a lot more work than just some specific rod that makes their cars a good value for customers, also most vehicles on the road all over that world are ICE, EV adoption is not gonna suddenly go up overnight as it needs a large charging network to function and governments would not allow the pandemonium of the value of oil suddenly dipping considering all theve done to get that oil, so they have enough time to work on designing their own EV lineup of cars
the main thing toyota is known for is reliability, and the main thing they need to keep running and reliable is the ICE engine
control rods, pistons, oil pumps etcetc
ev’s don’t have all that shit, the main thing on ev’s is the electronics and plastic stuff inside them