Tucker Carlson’s interview with the activist revealed the mainstream right is being flooded by extremism – and it’s now impossible to contain

Tucker Carlson’s interview with the activist revealed the mainstream right is being flooded by extremism – and it’s now impossible to contain

  • MrSmiley@lemmy.zip
    11·
    10 hours ago

    You should probably explain what you mean, because I already stated that ideological fantasy does not determine objective reality.

    That is the exact opposite of “idealism” you dolt.

    It was explicitly outlined in Marx’s writing. The dictatorship of the proletariat. As Žižek wrote in The Sublime Object of Ideology, “ideological fantasy creates social reality.” However, that social reality does not determine objective reality, merely how we interact with it. The Marxist position of achieving class consciousness is a falsehood, it is a presupposition that ignores human nature. There is no deeper philosophical meaning, the surface is the truth, the masses are an inertial force, an object not a subject. In a deterministic universe, all we have to do is look at past results to predict future outcomes.

    A quote from my copy of Hegel’s Phenomenology of Spirit, “What is universally valid is also universally effective; what ought to be, in fact also is, and what ought to be without [actually] being, has no truth.”

    • GrammarPolice@lemmy.world
      1·
      10 hours ago

      Your brand of idealism is that capitalism is unbreakable. That we’ve reached the final stage of history. This is fatalistic and therefore idealism. Go to school kid

      • MrSmiley@lemmy.zip
        1·
        10 hours ago

        I spelled out that it will collapse, what replaces it is eventually another dominance hierarchy if we escape extinction.

        Sorry bucko, no socialist utopia in any future.

        • GrammarPolice@lemmy.world
          1·
          10 hours ago

          The dominance hierarchy is one where the proletariat rules over the bourgeoisie. After that we end class altogether. You’re way out of your depth here

            • GrammarPolice@lemmy.world
              1·
              10 hours ago

              Mate your ignorance is glaring here. There are many socialisms. There’s Marxism-Leninism which warrants a vanguard, there’s anarchism which believes in decentralisation, there’s democratic confederalism which is a fusion of the state and decentralisation. You’re so ignorant it’s not even slapstick.

              This is why you’re not intelligent. You’re wrong, but some dogma is holding you back and i don’t know what it is.

              • MrSmiley@lemmy.zip
                1·
                9 hours ago

                Any form of socialism is not feasible without human consciousness evolving into some kind of singularity. You’ve already contradicted yourself and betrayed the principles of Marxism by claiming the proletariat would dominate the bourgeois. If socialism is about the worker owning the means of production, there is no bourgeois class, except for the worker. In the real world, all you get is some type of authoritarian state capitalism.

                • GrammarPolice@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  9 hours ago

                  Any form of socialism is not feasible without human consciousness evolving into some kind of singularity

                  Bruh what😂.That’s just not true. The workers only need to be class conscious. That means they need to realise that they’re oppressed and must revolt. That’s all that is necessary. We’ve gotten close many times, but those opportunities have been squandered. Once again, i refer you to the Occupy Wall Street movement which started to put capitalism back into the minds of the working class.

                  by claiming the proletariat would dominate the bourgeois. If socialism is about the worker owning the means of production, there is no bourgeois class, except for the worker.

                  The bourgeoisie would be in a constant bid to reinstate itself throughout socialism. This fight not only exists within the state’s own borders, but outside of it. This is the main fight. That is what is meant by this. I don’t have quotes on hand, but I can find you specific Marx quotes if you’re adamant about it.

                  • MrSmiley@lemmy.zip
                    1·
                    9 hours ago

                    The old theories are obsolete, the modes of production replaced by modes of representation. No matter how much you pray and recite your holy scripture, paradise never comes. Marxist theory is as relevant as phrenology.