A survey published last week suggested 97% of respondents could not spot an AI-generated song. But there are some telltale signs - if you know where to look.
Here’s a quick guide …
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No live performances or social media presence
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‘A mashup of rock hits in a blender’
A song with a formulaic feel - sweet but without much substance or emotional weight - can be a sign of AI, says the musician and technology speaker, as well as vocals that feel breathless.
- ‘AI hasn’t felt heartbreak yet’
“AI hasn’t felt heartbreak yet… It knows patterns,” he explains. “What makes music human is not just sound but the stories behind it.”
- Steps toward transparency
In January, the streaming platform Deezer launched an AI detection tool, followed this summer by a system which tags AI-generated music.
Right, pretty sure everyone but you knows it’s an opinion.
I think (think means opinion) most people, besides you, would agree that having a beat that is unique and not just downloaded from a loop library will produce a song that is more original.
Do you create your own samples from scratch too? Kudos if you do, I haven’t done that since the 90’s, and I consider my music original. Ever used an arpeggiator? Or randomized patterns? Used a synth lead that came with the synth?
The distinction between automation and AI breaks down somewhere.
I like to take real life sounds and put layers of effects on them to make them indistinguishable from the original. My drum is me playing my cat’s butt (meow, slap). I love to take quick sounds and slow them down ~100k% and get really weird atmospheric drones, etc.
When it comes to involving AI, which I haven’t done yet, I’d love to use it to quickly iterate over ideas. I spend a lot of time chasing an idea and having it fall apart. I like the process, sure, but I’d prefer to have more wins.
Hey, man, I feel that.
But yeah I heard a friend of mine also slows down slices and makes new sounds out of them. I have not been able to get to a studio in years, unfortunately, but I hear it can be done!
And that’s how I “use” Suno, too. Song ideas. I would never be able to live with myself if I just published an AI song, but I think using it to explore ideas is fair game. But then, you can download the stems in WAV, so you can basically use that instead of buying pre-made tracks from musicians on like Apple Store or whatever.
Which only comes back to the problem that it will likely hurt musicians and make life harder for everyone. I don’t know man, I’m just as nonplussed about the whole fucking thing as anyone.
I think tools are tools. But I think “AI” has way too much hype around it. The best way I have ever used AI for creative purposes is to say “do this and let me see it” and then “ok, make it blue” and then… up until the point where I like the concept of a thing, and then I go make it myself. But that process is foreign to most people and that process triggers them and gives them this kind of overwhelming anxiety that makes them have to lash out in anger. I just don’t understand that mentality. I think it is a mental illness from too much screen time
“In my imagination I speak for all people and we all think I’m right” chatGPT is literally rotting your brain bro
“The main issue musicians are struggling with is originality; AI can help :)” get a grip. Notice how in order for you to insert “ai” into this process you have to construct a fantasy where a totally uncreative person lazily drags a low quality beat into their project without a further care in the world? The root of your little fantasy here is simple and inescapable: AI is only appealing to boring, uncreative, soulless people. I know it, and you know it, which is why out of all the limitless possibilities your first argument is that it would be superior to something you already consider shit.
Strawman much?
“I refuse to have a polite conversation” - you. It’s exactly what you said, because it’s in quotes and I know how to use quotes. Hah.
I disagree.
If a person plays guitar-but not piano, and they feed their track into an AI and ask it to generate a backup piano track with specific instructions about how it should sound, they should be… denied that?
What should they do if they want a track that involves an instrument they can’t play? Hire someone? With what money? lol.
Great job pretending not to know the concept of a summary! Also bonus points for conceding my points by ignoring them and moving on
As for this little game you and all slop pushers like to play where you try to come up with problems that don’t exist so AI can solve them: I can’t help but to notice the main character of your second attempt here doesn’t have any friends they can make music with.
The reason they have no musical friends is most likely because they keep getting ghosted after showing people their humiliating AI demos. It’s gonna be a recurring problem for them until someone is polite enough to tell them the truth to their face
Oh, I see… You’re gatekeeping music. You assume that if a person picks up an instrument that they must want to be in a band. They must have a lot of friends who also play instruments. And they cannot be considered a serious musician unless they play in a group. I think Enya might have something to say about that.
I have the feeling that you feel the same way about all digitally created music, regardless of whether it involve artificial intelligence. You probably think programs like GarageBand have destroyed music. That a person with limited traditional musical skills could outshine you with what is basically a midi controller.
Tell me more about your failed music career.
Your delusions now extend to me! What an honor. Sadly, unlike with your AI girlfriend, you don’t have the ability to just tell me what I believe lmfao. Your brain is cooked
As for the point you’re trying to make: you cannot be considered a serious artist if you smear AI on the walls and then demand the same respect given to actual artists, no.
Digital artists who use “what is basically a midi controller” are actual artists, yes. Wtf are you talking about btw, it’s like you’ve heard of midi controllers but don’t know enough about them to phrase your point properly. Is your entire concept of digital production based on a guitar center advertisement? It would explain why you incorrectly believe AI could possibly assist the creative process.
And you’re the one shitting on digital artists, just so you know. Google how “Umbrella” was made before you so casually throw drum loops under the bus. Drum loops (and….this might blow your mind…piano loops) are collaborations between human artists. Everyone agrees this is legit. The fact you think instrumentalists and producers are somehow enemies reveals how out of touch you are; it’s totally obvious to anyone who actually creates music
Tell me more about your failed music career
Yeah you got nothing lmao. Good talk
I have everything. Nothing you said has changed my mind. Nothing you said has any rational thinking. No matter what point I make, you will say words of disagreement.
You’re just an old person yelling at clouds, or in this case: Computer programs that take inputs in different ways than you are familiar with and output things that are significantly better than you could ever do yourself.
So, tell me again about your failed music career lmao