Report: Biden Admin “Aggressively” Lobbying Senate Against Blocking Arms Sales to Israel
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The administration claimed that blocking arms transfers would embolden Hamas — ignoring Israel’s genocidal slaughter.

The administration claimed that blocking arms transfers would embolden Hamas — ignoring Israel’s genocidal slaughter.

    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
      324·
      4 days ago

      Aiding and abetting crimes against humanity by supplying weapons and funds while knowing EXACTLY what they’re being used for.

      • Kbobabob@lemmy.world
        512·
        4 days ago

        I understand the argument and I completely disagree with sending any support to Israel so they can continue genociding Palestinians. Is what you’re referencing actually a thing though. I understand aiding and abetting, I just don’t know if that actually makes it criminal in the actual written law.

        • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
          131·
          4 days ago

          Yes, it does both in international and US domestic law

          Multiple provisions in U.S. law restrict the sale or provision of weapons to other countries, including the federal Arms Export Control Act, the Foreign Assistance Act, and the Leahy Law. The open letter draws on evidence from Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, and other watchdogs to argue that continuing to provide weapons to Israel blatantly violates these laws, in addition to international treaties.

          • Kbobabob@lemmy.world
            114·
            4 days ago

            Thank you for that. I am aware of these and I don’t see anywhere that dictates war crimes as the OP suggested. I understand the criminality but that doesn’t mean war crime.

            I was just trying to point out that screaming war crime at everything is not necessary.

            • Maggoty@lemmy.world
              81·
              4 days ago

              I sell some one a gun that I know they’re going to commit murder with. I know all the details; who, what, where, why, and when.

              Am I guilty of murder?

              Yes. The answer is yes.

            • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
              81·
              4 days ago

              US weapons are being used for war crimes tho? The US is providing military aid unconditionally, knowing full well they are being used to violate humanitarian international law. The State providing the unconditional means for another state to commit war crimes is just as culpable as the state committing the war crimes.

            • MellowYellow13@lemmy.world
              61·
              4 days ago

              Do you not know how to read or are you then literally choosing to not reply in good faith to what you are reading. Either way that is toxic af and you know it.

              It is literally and by definition, a war crime.

        • leftytighty@slrpnk.netEnglish
          112·
          4 days ago

          Yes but I’m not obligated to provide you one.

          I’m not looking for a legal debate or sealioning or any other drawn out conversation about this topic.

          Some things that are noteworthy are that the United States is violating its own laws as pointed out by Sanders, and the ICC just put out warrants for Netenyahu and Gallant, so whether or not we debate the particulars Biden is involved in those crimes

          • Kbobabob@lemmy.world
            110·
            4 days ago

            Breaking US law does not equal a war crime as OP suggested.

            If you ever want to name an actual war crime, I’ll get the notification.

            • kreskin@lemmy.world
              7·
              4 days ago

              I’ll name the war crime, and you could too if you did a google search for it.

              We’re bound by the geneva conventions, that we did sign, and the articles regarding complicity in genocide wre in the signed articles. So yes, it is US law.

              "According to Article 1 of the Genocide Convention, the Contracting Parties, including the United States and Israel, must prevent and punish acts of genocide. Under Article III, those punishable acts include “Complicity in genocide,” such as by knowingly providing the deadly weapons used to carry it out. In 2007, the International Court of Justice (ICJ), in a case involving Bosnia and Serbia, established that the obligation to refrain from providing weapons or other assistance begins the moment a state becomes aware of the existence of a serious risk that genocide may be committed.

              For the Biden administration, that moment came in January, when the ICJ found that there was a “plausible” risk of genocide being committed in Gaza against the Palestinian people by Israel."

              https://www.thenation.com/article/world/biden-complicity-genocide/

              • Kbobabob@lemmy.world
                1·
                3 days ago

                Holy shit, a real answer and not just some snarky bullshit response!

                Thanks for actually taking the time to engage. I’m not being disingenuous. OP just said their was a “pile of war crimes”.

                So is “the pile of war crimes” are all regarding the sale of weapons?

            • leftytighty@slrpnk.netEnglish
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              4 days ago

              Heyyyy there’s that bullshit I was talking about… Why don’t you keep busy by writing an essay about how Putin’s war is illegal but Biden’s genocide is A-OK because it’s just not from the champagne region of Russia.

              I’ll get the notification

    • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
      113·
      4 days ago

      Are you capable of saying “Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza”? If so, say it now.