The drama and accusations the GrapheneOS developers are spewing and engaging in are giving me a bad taste in the mouth and make me doubt the OS’s reliability am I the only one?

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    13 hours ago

    I would prefer my privacy software to be developed by people like this, rather than people who are calm and flexible

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      12 hours ago

      Its all fine until their approach of privacy or security differs with what’s best for the project, then there’s no reasoning with them to fix it because they’re not calm and flexible. Then ya gotta fork it and get everyone to transition to the new fork, and get developers back onboard, etc.

      A crazy, but pointed example of something like this could be: the dude could just claim grapheneos going forward will not have networking anymore because thats an attack vector, and at that point the project doesn’t even suite anyone’s needs to be used as a smartphone anymore. How are you gonna reason with someone like this that, while keeping networking in the project is an attack vector, its necessary to be able to use the project for it’s intended use case? You probably aren’t

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      12 hours ago

      The guy being paranoid asshole is passable, what I thought a really shit move is calling the community to create alt accs to harass people from other projects and saying he will ban anyone that complains. The Rossmann video is quite shocking, you see the dev’s complete disassociation with reality… yeah the code is open, but how many people outside the project are really auditing it? Even people inside the project, are they auditing each others’ work? If the guy doesn’t get treatment, how long until he decides his own userbase is after him?

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        11 hours ago

        admittedly i’m not up to date on all the drama, but i thought that graphene saw themselves as victims of alt attacks?

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          11 hours ago

          So yeah, it seems like he accuses everyone of persecuting and harassing him, but in those videos there are several examples of what he considers persecuting and harassing. Both channels were highly supportive of the project and actively promoted it, but because they would also promote other projects and do benchmark tests, they were “spreading misinformation”, “being biased”, “campaigning against him” and so on. And in the second video he accused the guy of campaigning against him just for saying “This is informative, and unfortunate” about the first video lol. So him being a “victim” is just his lack of proper medication, because anyone who asked him about such attacks, if he had prints or so, was also accused of attacking him lol

          https://youtu.be/Dx7CZ-2Bajg
          https://youtu.be/4To-F6W1NT0

          Undoubtly GrapheneOS is the best project out there, so yeah, this is unfortunate.

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            11 hours ago

            OR, France is an evil, genocidal, ethnostate full of pedophiles, so we should maybe apply our Israel-tinted glasses and presume France to be the villain until we have concrete proof otherwise rather than blaming the victim.

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              10 hours ago

              None of the content above has anything to do with France - but he did take the opportunity to claim two other projects based on France are persecuting him as well, so he kinda has a pattern. As I commented to some other user in the other post, it’s The Boy Who Cried Wolf problem - those two videos are full of documentation of his modus operandi.

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                10 hours ago

                He is literally claiming that the French police and state are behind this campaign against Graphene, and I believe him knowing how the French are, but believe what you want…

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                  10 hours ago

                  Again, those videos aren’t about this French stuff, but about him claiming every other Android project is after him and that everyone who asks too much about his project is after him. The first video is from 2021 and the other from 2023. No relation to him claiming the French government is after him now.

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                    10 hours ago

                    Then why present this as recent concern about the project if it’s a personality trait going back years and unrelated to the French smear campaign I suspect you are financed by?

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                  8 hours ago

                  Sure sure first it was the CalyxOS guys, then youtubers and now the French Government. Lets say it is true I don’t believe him cause he’s a crazy asshole.