Vladimir Putin said a U.S. delegation is expected to arrive in Moscow in the first half of next week to discuss the latest American proposal to end the Kremlin’s war in Ukraine.
Speaking at a press conference during a visit to Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan, on Thursday, Putin said no draft peace agreement had been agreed to in recent talks between the U.S. and Ukraine, only a list of issues to be discussed.
Putin also said it was “pointless” to sign any documents with Ukraine’s current leadership, alleging that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy lacked legitimacy to do so.
I’m literally looking at the link you provided. Went from 330, then Russia fully invaded Ukraine in Feb of 2022, and stock price shot up, though now it’s back to a meager 450.
No matter how you look at it, even 20% in 4-5 years is very far from through the roof, especially considering the USD also lost 10-15% value in that time.
Rheinmetall was about €80 5 years ago and is now €1500 that’s an increase of 1775%, Now THAT’S THROUGH THE ROOF.
And that is in a currency that has kept it’s value.
So you original statement remains decidedly false.
Yeah, that’s a fair argument. The “through the roof” was more of a rhetorical(theres probably a better word I can use to describe it). Either way, my whole point was that the main, if not only, reason for the Ukraine/Russia conflict was to raise the stock price of our MIC, like the original Desert Storm was, which was what the “brave Ukrainian fighters” was in reference to.
Oh wow, here I thought it was hopeless, and then we end up mostly agreeing anyway.
But I don’t think USA was the cause for Russia invading Ukraine. That I think is 100% on Putin and his idea of recreating the Empire of the former Soviet Union.
But I do agree that Biden kind of prevented Ukraine from winning as much as he prevented Ukraine from losing.
And Trump has definitely not done much to help Ukraine win either, both prolonging a war that could have been finished much quicker if we had helped Ukraine more.
And of course prolonging the war earns money for the MIC.
Don’t count your chickens yet. The fault only goes to Putin if you start history in 2022, not the Orange Revolution, either of the Maidan coup, the 14k Russian speaking civilians killed in Ukraine before ‘22, or the constant hit pieces on the Azov battalion in American media before’ 22, and the constant puff pieces of the Azov battalion in American media after '22.
No Putin invaded Ukraine way before that, I think it was 2008 in Donbas, and of course Crimea in 2014.
And CIA’s Orange Revolution started in 2004 if I’m not mistaken. As the famous saying goes “As somebody who has helped plan coups d’etat — not here, but, you know, other places — it takes a lot of work”.