These could include government IDs, face or voice recognition, or so-called “age inference”, which analyses online behaviour and interactions to estimate a person’s age.
Surely this won’t be used by the government to monitor internet usage!
Australia already has metadata tracking. This law is poorly implemented by a bunch of old fools who don’t understand how the internet works. All it will achieve is training a generation to subvert the government’s nonsense better.
This law draws a line in the sand indicating societal expectations.
It empowers parents to set and maintain appropriate boundaries without being influenced by what other parents allow their kids to do. Its a lot easier to maintain a “no social media” rule if other parents are doing the same.
Also I dont really have any faith at all in the young teenagers of today being able to circumvent anything. Sure. A few will… but certainly not most or even a significant portion.
If you cant install it from the app store then its out of reach.
If you have to use a government ID to access the internet I don’t think there’ll be a way to subvert it. The tech fixes like face recognition and age inference can probably be spoofed, but IDs seem rock solid unless you steal someone else’s ID.
It would be pretty easy to subvert tbh for anyone tech savvy enough.
It’s like bypassing windows 11 “cloud account” and using a local account instead. If a person cares enough to ask why someone needs a cloud account to access their own PC.
For ID verification a personal VPS purchased in another country and routing all your home network traffic through that would bypass any ID checks. Also offline copies of websites and downloading content through P2P or usnet would be visible in obscuring your “viewing history”.
And porn can still be purchased or shared on bootleg DVDs.
Those solutions don’t really work if you need an ID to connect to the internet. Can’t access your VPN without internet access, can’t get on a P2P or usenet without accessing the internet first.
And porn can still be purchased or shared on bootleg DVDs.
They’d definitely prefer this, that gives them a physical media that they can track and the police can seize.
Plus it’ll give them more excuses to search through people’s belongings.
It’d be government ID to access sites hosted in Australia from Australia, but if the internet shows you accessing sites from say Vietnam, or accessing a site not hosted in Australia then what’s the government going to do?
In order for social media sites to actually be able to enforce this law it’s the only thing that would work. They might feel pressured to make deals with the internet service providers to actually implement this kind of ID check for internet connections.
If they don’t, it’s only a matter of time until some country does pass such a law.
This ID is already provided with a credit card number TBH and any other info needed to setup a ISP or cellphone plan, but there are ways around that.
One is purchasing a month to month phone plan with cash for example. Or finding open wifi networks and routing all traffic through a personal VPN or a commercial VPN.
And the social media sites, in the interest of complying with the law, might make deals with the internet service providers to actually put an ID check on every internet connection. This isn’t impossible.
Even if they don’t, once legislators realize their law didn’t fix the problem they can always pass new legislations.
Haha my mum (a primary school teacher at the time) was made the IT person for her school, but that was only because she had a son (me) who liked to fix computer problems for fun
Surely this won’t be used by the government to monitor internet usage!
Australia already has metadata tracking. This law is poorly implemented by a bunch of old fools who don’t understand how the internet works. All it will achieve is training a generation to subvert the government’s nonsense better.
Not really.
This law draws a line in the sand indicating societal expectations.
It empowers parents to set and maintain appropriate boundaries without being influenced by what other parents allow their kids to do. Its a lot easier to maintain a “no social media” rule if other parents are doing the same.
Also I dont really have any faith at all in the young teenagers of today being able to circumvent anything. Sure. A few will… but certainly not most or even a significant portion.
If you cant install it from the app store then its out of reach.
If you have to use a government ID to access the internet I don’t think there’ll be a way to subvert it. The tech fixes like face recognition and age inference can probably be spoofed, but IDs seem rock solid unless you steal someone else’s ID.
It would be pretty easy to subvert tbh for anyone tech savvy enough.
It’s like bypassing windows 11 “cloud account” and using a local account instead. If a person cares enough to ask why someone needs a cloud account to access their own PC.
For ID verification a personal VPS purchased in another country and routing all your home network traffic through that would bypass any ID checks. Also offline copies of websites and downloading content through P2P or usnet would be visible in obscuring your “viewing history”.
And porn can still be purchased or shared on bootleg DVDs.
Those solutions don’t really work if you need an ID to connect to the internet. Can’t access your VPN without internet access, can’t get on a P2P or usenet without accessing the internet first.
They’d definitely prefer this, that gives them a physical media that they can track and the police can seize.
Plus it’ll give them more excuses to search through people’s belongings.
It’d be government ID to access sites hosted in Australia from Australia, but if the internet shows you accessing sites from say Vietnam, or accessing a site not hosted in Australia then what’s the government going to do?
They could require an ID to connect to the internet.
That’s not what’s been proposed.
In order for social media sites to actually be able to enforce this law it’s the only thing that would work. They might feel pressured to make deals with the internet service providers to actually implement this kind of ID check for internet connections.
If they don’t, it’s only a matter of time until some country does pass such a law.
Technically they already do, if you you’re the account holder
This ID is already provided with a credit card number TBH and any other info needed to setup a ISP or cellphone plan, but there are ways around that.
One is purchasing a month to month phone plan with cash for example. Or finding open wifi networks and routing all traffic through a personal VPN or a commercial VPN.
They could require you to show an ID to purchase a phone.
Open wifi networks certainly wouldn’t provide an ID to connect, which would mean they couldn’t be used to access social media.
This is not an unsolvable problem. The question is if Australia is willing to piss everyone off to actually do it.
That’s not how the law is written, onus is on social media sites, they haven’t banned under 16s from the internet, just from social media.
And the social media sites, in the interest of complying with the law, might make deals with the internet service providers to actually put an ID check on every internet connection. This isn’t impossible.
Even if they don’t, once legislators realize their law didn’t fix the problem they can always pass new legislations.
My point is that this isn’t impossible.
People will bypass any barrier they put in place. Hell, that’s how I got into IT.
Somebody’s IT department put up barriers, which you bypassed to force your way into the job? Is the willfully incorrect way I chose to read it.
“I hacked their system and put myself on payroll, issued myself an ID, and started showing up to work.”
Not at all. My stepmom was the head IT person for a school district and I was getting around the blocks she put up on our home internet.
Haha my mum (a primary school teacher at the time) was made the IT person for her school, but that was only because she had a son (me) who liked to fix computer problems for fun