A German man has been found guilty of drugging and raping his unconscious wife for years and sharing video of his crimes on the internet, in a case that has drawn comparisons to the trial of Dominique Pelicot in France.
Fernando P., a 61-year-old school janitor, was found guilty of abusing his wife inside the couple’s home, filming it and then sharing it online without the victim’s knowledge.
He was sentenced Friday to 8 years and 6 months in prison following a trial at a court in Aachen, western Germany. An appeal may be filed against the judgment within one week, the court said.
Did the man know that all he needed to do to have sex with his wife is to do some dishes and occasionally take her out to nice dinner and listen to her bitch about the Karen at her work?
Drugging your spouse to have sex with her seems like punching your own dick to cum. It might work, but there are easier ways.
Note, Germany’s current chancellor voted against the law making rape in marriage illegal.
I was talking to a girl once on hinge that told me she wanted me to drug her until she was unconscious and fuck her.
We never met. I’m good, thanks. Like. Even if someone wants that I’ve no interest.
I don’t know wtf has to be wrong with you to want to do that to someone that wants to do it, let alone someone that doesn’t.
They should throw this guy in the used syringe hole.
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Short sentence if you ask me.
There’s a fair argument for a longer sentence for such a horrible crime, but for Germany this is pretty long, prison sentences are not as inflated there as in the USA.
And you really don’t want to start inching towards American sentence lengths
24 life sentences for forgetting I had a case of water under the cart? One life sentence per bottle. You got away with the packaging. They didn’t even make it into my car!
Hang your Christmas lights wrong? That’s a hanging.
“in America, we fight for freedom and liberty!”
to judge and prosecute others.*
It is pretty long by European standards. At the same time, it does feel unjust when the culprit gets a shorter sentence than he gave his victim.
Does Germany have a sex offender registry? If so, the social sentence may continue well after release. While not quite the same, hopefully she can begin healing and move on with her life while his torment just begins.
The opposite, you have a right to privacy even after being sentenced. Such a registry sounds like it would drastically increase recidivism rates by making you unemployable and unable to form a social life.
It does. Signed, US Citizen.
My understanding of how most of Europe handles incarceration is that: instead of giving really long sentences, but allowing parole after x years like in the US, they give shorter sentences, and then they do a (yearly maybe?) review when the sentence is up to determine if the inmate has been rehabilitated enough to re-enter society.
So a 5 year sentence in Europe can end up being longer in practice if they determine the person isn’t fit to leave.
I think that’s only in cases of insanity. Those can turn into life long treatment/sentences. For normal sentences, if you’ve done your time, you’re free. And you can get parole at 2/3 of that for good behaviour.
At least in Netherland; obviously this can vary wildly per country. But in NL, the max sentence is 29 years, so even the worst murderer can get out after 13. Unless he’s declared insane.
This is actually not correct. In NL we have true life sentences, even without insanity. After 25 years you are potentially eligible for a royal pardon. Then you still get a psych evaluation etc. The only one who could get you out is a royal pardon by the king. Not that it happens a lot.
I agree, six words is short.
Wow, and I hadn’t heard about it until now. You’d think another Pelicot would be big news.
Do they have laws against publicising these things before conviction, maybe?
Yes. Even after conviction they may only name the culprit in exceptional cases. It’s mostly for the victim’s benefit, but even criminals have a right to privacy.
Please don’t confuse this as victim blaming. It is not. I am curious about what the victim thought was going on with her health when she was being frequently sedated. Did she think she became a hard sleeper? Did she have side effects that she might have even seen a doctor for, who spent futile time testing for natural causes?
Is this something that might one day be in the back of mind for nurses and doctors that someone is being secretly drugged, like Munchausen by Proxy?
Gisèle Pelicot (a parallel case in France) was very public with her story, I imagine you can look for answers there.
Thanks. Another commenter added some context.
The french lady said she was dizzy and prone to fainting if I remember correctly. She went to see a doctor couple of times but they didn’t find anything.
That’s exactly what I was curious about. There’d be no reason to do toxicology for someone coming in with these sorts of symptoms. Foul play is often the last thing people suspect.
I don’t know about this specific case, but what I do know is that often in cases of abuse there is a certain amount of Gaslighting involved. And even if there is no Gaslighting, the absurdity and horror of it all can lead to victims not wanting to believe what is going on.
Not sure why they had to add “west Germany”. I think we only have one Aachen? (Unlike Frankfurt…)
CNN is an American news company. I assume they added “western Germany” because most Americans don’t know where Aachen is.
Or Germany 🙃
Or Europe, or find USA on a globe.
on globe is easy. usa is in the center
