• 20cello@lemmy.world
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    Oil,that’s what he means by national security. Dear Americans please get rid of that cancer you call potus. General strikes is what you can do.

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      TBF, he also means strategic expansionism. (The Arctic is playing an ever greater role in geopolitics, as the ice melts)

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      There is actual strategic value to Greenland. It is right in the line of sight between Russia and the USA. If the USA were to place a missile defence station on Greenland, they would be able to intercept Russian missiles.

      There is also some legitimate claim to the island, since the USA was the one to help the Greenlanders during and after WW2. Which is not the best claim, but it us the most recent claim of them all. All the claim Denmark has, is that there were some Danish settlers there in the 18th century. And maybe the claim that they need to atone for their inuit genocide which has helped to make Greenland self rule infeasible for now.

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        All the claim Denmark has, is that there were some Danish settlers there in the 18th century.

        So we can take over the USA because their only claim is settlers getting there in recently history?

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        The lawfully formed government of the people asserts that they are part of Denmark whilst having the power to be independent or part of another nation if the political will exists to enact it which is ultimately what makes a country a country.

        Imagining we have any claim on it based on rendering aid almost a century ago is…kinda deranged. Also its strategic value can easily be realized as it is now via alliance.

        What cannot be realized by alliance is handing out their resources like prizes to cronies which is the actual motivation.

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        If the USA were to place a missile defence station on Greenland, they would be able to intercept Russian missiles.

        Except no, because you can intercept ICBMs only in the first and final stages of flight. In the coast phase they are too high and do not light up on radars.

        Next argument please.

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            The problem is that your post consists only of specious arguments that indicate you haven’t really thought about this. EG it makes little sense to try to annex Greenland for defense when the act of trying to take it would blow up half of our alliances, start a war, and ultimately provide no more benefit than simply continuing to ally with Greenland/Denmark.

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              If I were the glorious leader of the USA, I could just fall back on the fact that I am the smartest person by presidential decreed. But I am not, so I can only make specious arguments.

              It is a great thought experiment though. How can the glorious leader justify the American claim to Greenland?

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            Right, because attacking the person rather than the actual argument is a stellar example of mature discussion skills.

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              I am explicitely not attacking your person, but your style of debate. You might very well be a great person to hang out with. I’m not making assumptions about that.

              You cannot change who you are, so it would be unfair to comment on your person. You can however change your debate style by not saying things like “next argument please”.