Move is part of a long-awaited Labour strategy including outlawing hen cages and ending puppy farming

Boiling lobsters while they are alive and conscious will be banned as part of a government strategy to improve animal welfare in England.

Government ministers say that “live boiling is not an acceptable killing method” for crustaceans and alternative guidance will be published.

The practice is already illegal in Switzerland, Norway and New Zealand. Animal welfare charities say that stunning lobsters with an electric gun or chilling them in cold air or ice before boiling them is more humane.

    • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
      13·
      2 hours ago

      Not true.

      As at least one commenter said already, meat can be extracted without killing.

      And further, you can wait for something to die of natural causes, and then you get the meat.

      And now, arguably, “meat” can be made in a lab. Perhaps suppressed secret tech already has star-trek style replicators.

      At least 3 distinct ways of meat without killing.

      At a stretch… seeds and mushrooms can be considered/called “meat”.

      Probably more ways yet I’ve not thought of.

    • BCsven@lemmy.caEnglish
      14·
      20 hours ago

      And it should be instant. Not like the extreme polar end of those asian guys skinning a dog while it was still alive for the meat market.

    • thebustinater@lemmy.zipEnglish
      1010·
      1 day ago

      all meat requires killing.

      Technically not true… You could amputate and eat part of an animal without killing it

      • Gladaed@feddit.orgEnglish
        11·
        5 hours ago

        Roadkill and scavenging exists. It’s pretty safe when done responsibly

      • jordanlund@lemmy.worldMEnglish
        4·
        11 hours ago

        A TV reporter became lost on the back roads and stopped at a farm to get directions. As he was talking to the farmer he noticed a pig with a wooden leg. “This could be a great story for the Six O’Clock News.  How did that pig lose his leg?” he asked the farmer. “Well”, said the farmer, “that’s a very special pig. One night not too long ago we had a fire start in the barn, and that pig squealed so loud and long that he woke everyone, and by the time we got there he had herded all the other animals out of the barn. Saved them all.”

        “And that was when he hurt his leg?” asked the journalist anxious for a story.  “Nope, he pulled through that just fine.” said the farmer. “Though a while later, I was back in the woods when a bear attacked me. Well, sir, that pig was nearby and he came running and rammed that bear from behind and then chased him off. He saved me for sure.”

        “Wow! So the bear injured his leg then?” questioned the reporter.  “No. He came away without a scratch. Though a few days later, my tractor turned over in a ditch and I was knocked unconscious. Well, that pig dove into the ditch and pulled me out before I got cut up in the machinery.”  “Ahh! So his leg got caught under the tactor?” asked the journalist.  “Noooo. We both walked away from that one.” says the farmer.

        “So how did he get the wooden leg?” asked the journalist.  “Well”, the farmer replied, “A pig that good you don’t eat all at once!"

      • KiloGex@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1317·
        1 day ago

        Correct. Scientists have done studies on vibrations from plants and they have a reaction to being cut and pulled that could be equated to a “pain” response.

        • Spacenut@lemmy.worldEnglish
          333·
          1 day ago

          Let’s suppose that you actually genuinely care about reducing the amount of plant suffering in the world. If this is the case, surely you would be vegan, because 3/4 of our total agricultural land is used to grow plants to support animal agriculture. (Since grass feels pain just like soybeans do, this includes pasture land.) So far fewer plants would be killed if everyone was vegan.

          Of course, you don’t actually live your life in a manner consistent with believing plants feel pain. I don’t think anyone would think twice about swerving into some flowers to avoid a dog in the street for fear of causing suffering to the flowers.

          • TronBronson@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            3 hours ago

            Do you have any idea how many animals and bugs suffer at the hands of your monocultures in to produce soybeans and tofu? They destroy the habitat, poison the ground and the water, and make it impossible for most things to live on vast tracks of land. They interrupt migration patterns of larger animals.

            You guys must all be small scale organic farmers like me! Surely if you cared about all life so much, you would be doing more of your personal space to accommodate? Shall we analyze your diet Friend? Let us discuss what you were eating and how you are acquiring it.