I can see it now: just get the enemy to breathe in a cloud of nanobots, or have the bots enter their body through an open cut that they make, and the enemy’s body is yours: no violence needed.

We live in a terrifying time because there’s just no way to dodge this sort of stuff unless you have the EMP tech, since a Hazmat suit is unsustainable to don long-term.

EDIT: No, I didn’t watch anything! I’ve been reading about how nanobots are currently being used in the medical field to clear plaque from arteries, so I have simply been chugging with that train of thought in a more nefarious direction…

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    Well, “obsolete.” Unless your average home invader starts employing nanobots in their crimes guns will still be useful, just not against state level threats that can afford nanobots. Of course, those threats already have f-35s or whatever number we’re on now so guns are already of limited effect there.

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    Maybe, but drones are so much more fun, and millions of kids start volunteering for training to fly them starting when they are less than 10 years old, so there are plenty of experienced drone operators available at any given moment.

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    […] there’s just no way to dodge this sort of stuff unless you have the EMP tech […]

    I think that we are closer of advance EMP technology than remote controlled operative war nanobots that supose a non violent threat more than biological weapons (which I find quite violent and inhumane), not to mention that countermeasure evolution seems much easier than (if not as easy as) the effective sophistication of nanobots, just to say a few…

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    I mean biological warfare already exists so no need to go 21st century with it. I’d imagine that even if the tech existed, it just wouldn’t be cost effective.

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      We already had a sublime propaganda machine, yet here we are with AI anyway…

      And cost effective only matters if you actually want to solve problems for people, not if you want to make money by creating something nobody wants and have you and your friends in the military-industrial-political complex get astronomically rich together.

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    Wait until you hear about viruses or prions. Truly terrifying nanobots. Worst of all, they already exist. Those things are out there right now.

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      Chemical weapons appear as a much better option than viruses. Enemy is there, drop a nervine agent and everyone is dead. Wait for a while and you’re free to advance.

      Viruses in much more difficult to operate: infect someone somehow - I guess a bomb or something like that could be used as well. Wait several months so that enemy actually gets infected on large scale, but not too long because most of them won’t be dying anyway and soon back to battlefield. In the meantime vaccinate the whole of your invasion army. Start producing massive quantities of vaccines just in case it spreads to your own country somehow and you’ll have to treat your own population.

      Assuming you were able to create both the virus and the vaccine within the period the war lasted, it may give you some bit of advantage during a period of 1/2 months or something like that. Good enough if you’re able to win the war in such period, but if you’ve got that kind of money to spend I’m sure you’ve got way more efficient options.

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        Yep. Bio weapons are terrible in every way. Now that RNA vaccines are in production, making new vaccines just got a whole lot faster.

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      Prions are absolutely wild. There is no cure, no “vaccine” - not that that would even be possible because they’re not viruses, bacteria, or even living things from outside your body. They’re just a faulty version of something that already exists in your system and they make your body self-destruct.

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        There have never been enough concerns to be worth to develop a vaccine for a prion, and current used techniques are those for being efficient for their targets, but as far as I know prions are just proteins and proteins can be (and are) targeted, the whole immunitarie system often relies on those…

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        Prime horror movie material.

        You trust your body. You trust your mind. But what if the enemy… is already inside you?

        They’re not viruses. They’re not bacteria. They’re your own proteins… twisted. Hungry.

        They hide in the folds of your brain. They wait in the silence of your cells. And when they strike… you won’t even know you’re already lost.

        PRIONS

        COMING TO AN ENDOPLASMIC RETICULUM NEAR YOU

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        If a plausible zombie virus were to exist, it would definitely be those long-incubating stuff

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    We live in a terrifying time

    Well, the nanobots that you are describing do not exist, so they aren’t what is making the time terrifying

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    That sounds much more complicated than just using a gun. And they even work on people in hazmat suits.

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          Well, they’re not mine and rather evil mega corps’ or PMCs’ from MGS, but yeah, that’s what I had in mind…

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            But then they wouldn’t even perform the basic function of a gun. How would that make guns obsolete?

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              Because converting your enemy to further do your bidding is way better than just killing them, of course!

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                Not always.

                It’s more like you’re making bribery and traditional brainwashing obsolete. But if you just want someone dead, a gun is still the better tool.

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    no violence needed

    How is this entire thing not violence?

    unless you have the EMP tech

    So you mean like robots with electronics in them? You should read less science fiction. This is beyond bill gates microchip injection nonsense.

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      Nanobots, son. It’s hi-tech and sexy, don’t question it.

      The thought process skips a few steps steps the same way as the idea to terraform mars when we can’t even do that to earth.

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        It’s arguably a lot easier to terraform a planet when we don’t have to worry about messing up and killing off our entire species. Though the are some who would make the argument we’re doing so anyway

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      Or, again, injects nanobots through that stinger, which then take control of your body. Why let a perfectly fine slave body go to waste by dying?

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      Very excited for them to finally get to the better parts in season 3

      Even more excited they limited seasons to 4 so they can’t drag it out like they did with 2

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      Really excellent books. I didn’t think the second one could be better than the first or reveal more secrets, man was i pleasantly surprised

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    They most probably won’t, there is literally zero chance that someone would kill you with nanobots.