Extremist messaging now woven into music and YouTube videos, with one expert saying: ‘You can be radicalised sitting on your couch’

The two men chop peppers, slice aubergines and giggle into the camera as they delve into the art of vegan cooking. Both are wearing ski masks and T-shirts bearing Nazi symbols.

The German videos – titled Balaclava Kitchen – started in 2014 and ran for months before YouTube took down the channel for violating its guidelines.

But it offered a glimpse of how far-right groups have seized on cultural production – from clothing brands to top 40 music – to normalise their ideas, in a process that researchers say has hit new heights in the age of social media.

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    How long you’ve been typing that for? I assume around a half-hour. Is it okay you can boil this down to simple terms?

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      Only part I read was how no body likes professors/educated people cause they are all snobs.

      What?!?

      Dude. Half of grad students are first gen college students.

      We aren’t snobs. We don’t look down at the poor. Hell I’m still poor.

      People who are insecure get upset when people who are doing better than them exist. They see it as a personal insult that someone with a higher degree than them, is in the same checkout line. How dare they make you feel stupid!?!

      That’s a personal issue. If you don’t trust experts because , to you, they only got a degree and education to be a snob to you and make you feel bad about yourself, then who do you trust?

      Leadership won’t come from the low level, unskilled. Uneducated people.

      The stoner kid that washes dishes. ?

      Yeah no.

      It will come from educated and intelligent people with both life experiences and an education on how things work.

      I’m sorry you have so little trust in education and knowledge.

      But that’s the true path to growth. Not this “I know everything cause I had a shitty job”.

      Yeah I had a lot of shit jobs. Taught me about the flaws in labor laws.

      But didn’t teach me how to change the laws.

      Only law school and political science education is gonna do that.

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        I’m actually non-binary, and I prefer gender-neutral and feminine terms. That said, I DIDN’T call you a snob. Seriously!

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      I spent a good amount of time typing that while doing other things as well. Too much. My bad. Unreasonable for anyone to read it. Gist

      We look to people that are too out of touch for leadership. Politicians, artists, university professors and students

      We need to look at those with urgent needs for leadership. Impoverished, medical problems they can’t afford, people with limited class and career mobility like tradespeople, gig workers, retail/restaurant workers, factory/warehouse, farmers, etc

      The clear majority of people are not in the university, art - living their best life world or ones that follow politic at all. The majority are working hard and too exhausted to follow politics with their limited free time. We need laborers to feel like they’re not walking on eggshells among us

      These people are not polished speakers because they’re not practiced. They can’t practice because mistakes are too harshly judged. They can’t practice because the out of touch people dominate the leftist scene

      We need these people front and center on stage because they’re the ones people can relate to. They know how to talk normal. Like i am not good at that. I’m too bookish with my speech. I can be unrelatable like my previous post

      On our end it’s support poorer less educated people in less glamorous jobs to be our leaders. Don’t be so judgmental on those that say problematic things on occasion. That’s like everyone that isn’t always surrounded by leftist

      And in the past like 80s and back, it looks to me that the major activist leaders that got results were normal people on the edge and working at it full time without a backup plan for failure. Wealthier people can leave the country. Go and live a quiet comfortable life barely participating in politics. We need people leading that dont feel like they can have a comfortable life without major change

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          That’s the hard part. People with advanced degrees or deep in the arts are used to regular praise. Don’t respond well when you don’t get excited for the things they say. One thing is to focus criticism onto how the upper social classes of leftist movements speaks they get used to taking non-academic criticism again from political colleagues.

          Right now it’s the lower class that gets scolded for language and behavior that doesn’t fit with upper class language. The opposite should be it. The upper class either needs to step aside, adapt their speech like they’ve demanded everyone else for decades, or get ignored or scolded. The getting ignored part is already happening. The scolding seems to be increasing to me as the lessening of respect that academia seems to get now (not that academia should be disrespected but that the default to following academics seems to be in decline)

          I’ve gotten used to calling out peers for being out of touch and for getting in fights with their imagination rather than just asking people at like a town hall in the poorer parts of town or a food bank what their concerns are or cashiers. It’s great. 10 years ago they were certain they were doing things well. Now today I’m finally seeing my academia friends thinking saying BIPOC and Latinx (two terms lifted from academic papers) isn’t resonating with minority communities or most white people outside of small university groups. The majority outside of universities have way more basic needs concerns compared to university students.

          Telling people to go to therapy and travel more and go to music festivals isn’t working. Yoga, meditation, etc are not solutions that display urgency. Wellness rhetoric is weak. People that suggest these need to be shoo’ed away. The first time I heard bipoc said was at a fundraising event. I have never heard it said outside of political events that has significant speakers in attendance like local politicians, university professors, leaders of major nonprofits. I never hear it said out in the minority majority neighborhood I live in. Pressure the leftist upper class to speak the language of the common person by pulling them down into the lower class communities or push them aside by ignoring them and encouraging others to do so as well. If they want a career in politics either directly in government or in community organization groups, they better learn the culture and speech of the community

          It’d be good if after speaking, like at those 50501 marches, canvassing the crowd for response. Do you remember anything people on the stage said? What are your pressing concerns locally? Did the speakers today address those? After today do you know where you can continue involvement in days between marches? Do you know when local town halls with local politicians occur and where? Are you active in any boycotts? Are you a part of a group in these boycotts? Did anything today bring you into membership of a grassroots political organization that you weren’t before?

          If we aren’t being affective, we need to know as soon as possible.

          Every bit of communication we do is an opportunity to also hear whether we’re even communicating well rather than relying on if the crowd clapped or cheered. The crowd almost always does once some starts to do so. We should constantly be optimizing our speech for how people respond in understanding and action

          Also telling the higher class leftist who make fun of conservatives for being poorer on average to stop being a dick. Plenty of poor people are leftist. Or for being born in a non-destination state. Nothing wrong being born in South Dakota or wanting to live in South Dakota. Same idea for other countries. Plenty of conservatives are conservative because that’s what they were born into and are surrounded by. Either provide an avenue to be a leftist or an ally in benefit, not fully in ideology, or shut up and keep the elitism to themselves.

          Sure it offends upper class leftists to be called out of touch and be ignored. Doesn’t matter, they’re a very small portion of the movement that by and large just vote and socialize among other champagne socialist. Their contribution is small. Better to alienate the well off upper class leftist than alienate the poorer leftists and middle swing voters that barely follow politics for whatever reason. There’s way more that aren’t upper class leftists

          Local politics over national. Local town halls with city council members have plenty of unpolished but passionate speakers that are desperate in their situation. These are the people that should be getting positive reinforcement and encouragement. Someone that gets potholes filled because of their pestering city council members has displayed more political willpower and ingenuity than someone who got a bunch of college people to hold a moment of silence for all the people who’s voices that aren’t being heard

          Should have accomplishable goals short dated and long. Short ones can be simple community work like cleaning up litter and volunteering at local community centers. Organizing fundraisers for random children activities that kids do. Associating regularly with counseling centers. Food drives. Clothing drives that deliver to people directly rather than pass on to the mostly faceless very large established non-profits. People should see the results of their efforts.

          Like a friend of mine has been working as a councilor for ~18-20 year olds in a poor neighborhood. Often broken and/or impoverished homes. Got a friend that coaches sports. Others that work I restaurants and enjoy showing people how to break down whole chickens, fish, beef, etc which people love to learn especially the budget conscious. I don’t get why there’s such a strong separation between social workers and political organizations. Political organizations should be doing community volunteer type work on the regular to constantly be in touch with community member and potentially find people that would be great in helping plan, organize, and communicate with the public and that should be a part of their whole mission. On their website. In their brochure. In their marketing. Fundraising and paying for lobbyist is not a very engaging organization to keep people active

          Don’t discourage anger from poorer people. In the art/politics/academia world, everyone is too sedated and decorum too required. That sort of attitude does not make poorer people feel like there’s urgency for them.

          Shits hard but got to keep trying. Right now my attempts are focused on supporting local needs and trying to get the university/art people to stop trying to culture police people who aren’t even doing anything bad really and stop making people feel like they’re greedy for being more concerned about their finances rather than whatever the current social cause academia is hot these days

          My thoughts are based around about 25 years of being the guy that grew up in an abusive poor household but managed to make it to college and into middle to upper-middle class social and political groups and being repeatedly frustrated with how much of a class divide there is on the left and how the upper portion dominates over the lower and it being really ineffective including the Obama years. We’ve been losing more and more of the non-college educated voter for decades and keep acting like the solution is to get more and more people a college degree. Now less people want to go to college and 2024 college students didn’t vote as lopsided left like they did in the past. Hoping demographics will save us is too passive