• NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml
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    7 hours ago

    the guys 250 years ago also said something about “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State…” as if to qualify their following statement.

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      Liberals love to focus on that line. At the time “well regulated” meant “well equipped”. Militias were just farmers called up to fight in case of an emergency. The founders wanted a populace armed with military quality weapons in place of a permanent professional army in case Europe decided to invade. You can argue whether that’s still relevant today, but that’s what they meant when they wrote it. They go into greater detail in the federalist papers.

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        47 minutes ago

        Military quality weapons? Then where are the civilian tanks and fighter jets? Hell, even just automatic weapons are out of our hands.

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          Well this may shock you, but none of those things existed in 1791 and were not accounted for in the second amendment. It really should have been updated, but doing things the right way is inconvenient so instead various governments have found back doors to water it down as they have with most of the bill of rights.

          Also, from a purely pedantic perspective, private ownership of tanks and (afaik) jet fighters is perfectly legal if you have the insane amount of money you’d need to buy one. The same is true of automatic weapons if you go to the trouble and expense to get an FFL.

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            Also, from a purely pedantic perspective, private ownership of tanks and (afaik) jet fighters is perfectly legal if you have the insane amount of money you’d need to buy one. The same is true of automatic weapons if you go to the trouble and expense to get an FFL.

            Yes, technically legal but fraught with regulation, which is what people are asking for with gun control.