Until now you were arguing that buying plants would incur in human exploitation. But now that I’ve argued for the least exploitative scenario, you came up with ‘responsibly sourced plant options at a reasonable price’.
So now we can get plants without exploiting immigrants, right?
Then there’s no need to exploit animals, simple as that
No. Please go reread the conversation again. I have always been discussing the relatively high cost of responsibly sourced vegan protein compared to raising one or two chickens for their eggs, which drives people who want to be vegan to purchase cheaper produce that involves exploiting humans. That has always been my concern. And that has always been what I’ve focused on. And saying that it is relatively easy to responsibly source chicken feed at a reasonable price compared to doing the same for human-consumable protein is perfectly consistent with my entire argument
You have just made an absolute statement of ideology that is disregarding rational debate. That is exactly what I have a problem with. You have decided on a specific ideology and nothing will change your mind, even when presented with reasonable explanations of why it may be flawed for some people. You appear to have edited your comment to add a “then” before the last sentence, or I misread.
I’m done with this conversation now. Thank you for remaining civil, at least. Have a great day/night.
There’s a way to get cheap and ethically sourced plants when they’re destined for animals
There’s no way to get cheap and ethically sourced plants when they’re destined for humans
You’re missing that humans are also animals and we eat some of the same crops non-human animals eat. The human exploitation you’re arguing against doesn’t magically disappear from crops grown for animals.
Yup. You’ve got my points exactly correct. And when you’re ready to live on chicken feed every day we can continue this discussion. Until then, I will respectfully disagree with your claim.
Until now you were arguing that buying plants would incur in human exploitation. But now that I’ve argued for the least exploitative scenario, you came up with ‘responsibly sourced plant options at a reasonable price’.
So now we can get plants without exploiting immigrants, right?
Then there’s no need to exploit animals, simple as that
No. Please go reread the conversation again. I have always been discussing the relatively high cost of responsibly sourced vegan protein compared to raising one or two chickens for their eggs, which drives people who want to be vegan to purchase cheaper produce that involves exploiting humans. That has always been my concern. And that has always been what I’ve focused on. And saying that it is relatively easy to responsibly source chicken feed at a reasonable price compared to doing the same for human-consumable protein is perfectly consistent with my entire argument
You have just made an absolute statement of ideology that is disregarding rational debate. That is exactly what I have a problem with. You have decided on a specific ideology and nothing will change your mind, even when presented with reasonable explanations of why it may be flawed for some people.You appear to have edited your comment to add a “then” before the last sentence, or I misread.I’m done with this conversation now. Thank you for remaining civil, at least. Have a great day/night.
I’ll just summarize your points:
You’re missing that humans are also animals and we eat some of the same crops non-human animals eat. The human exploitation you’re arguing against doesn’t magically disappear from crops grown for animals.
Yup. You’ve got my points exactly correct. And when you’re ready to live on chicken feed every day we can continue this discussion. Until then, I will respectfully disagree with your claim.