We’ll see. I hope you’re right. Similar tactics in the housing market have created situations in which rent is cheaper than mortgage payments, which is a bad portent.
what? no they haven’t. Rent is usually more expensive than mortgage payments we just set up the finanical system to disallow most renters from taking out a mortgage because its more profitable to trap people in an endless cycle of payment.
I mean, I’ve already got a backlog of 100+ Steam and GOG games I haven’t played yet, plus something like 1000+ retro game ROMs, and I’m happy to go digging in the crates as it were. There are already more games available than I’ll have time to play in my lifetime.
They push cloud gaming and I go fuck off entirely.
Do you play Call of Duty every release?No? Because millions of people do.Do you think your actions are offsetting that?Because they are not. Nobody is going to sell hardware to a couple thousand folk who won’t get in with the times.
Based on your tone, you come from the Randy Pitchford school of public relations.
If you’re uncertain about what I’m getting at, my recent spending on Borderlands, and Borderlands related goods, averages out to zero dollars and zero cents.
I’m telling you that we are in a minority.And that unless we can convince at least 50% of gamers to not buy into that, we lost.EA should have been bankrupt twenty times over, but people keep buying their games.Same as with everything.I keep fighting, but this fight has been lost since the start.
I understand your thesis, but am offering mine as a wholesale replacement instead of a rebuttal:
The entire gaming industry produces non-essential goods.
No one video game, nor the entire industry, have a monopoly on entertainment.
I dictate what products and services I want, the video game industry does not.
If the industry doesn’t produce products that I want, the industry gets zero of my entertainment dollars, or attention.
I can and will spend my entertainment dollars elsewhere, and have experienced zero stress as a result.
Why “fight” an industry that needs you more than you need it? They cannot stop me from disregarding them, which certainly makes getting money out of me a challenge.
I cannot stress enough how much of a Them problem this actually is.
I’m just trying to explain to you that YOU might do your thing, but YOU do not sway the industry.
I’ve known and understood the dangers of dark practices, yet those companies were rewarded regardless of me not buying into them and warning others.
All I’m saying is that you and I represent an insignificant minority of money in gaming, and if the majority won’t shop for PC hardware, that will cease to be sold. Completely. You and I will not change that.
I’m just trying to explain to you that YOU might do your thing, but YOU do not sway the industry.I’ve known and understood the dangers of dark practices, yet those companies were rewarded regardless of me not buying into them and warning others.All I’m saying is that you and I represent an insignificant minority of money in gaming, and if the majority won’t shop for PC hardware, that will cease to be sold. Completely. You and I will not change that.
Like I said, I understand your Resistance is Futile story. As a separate topic for self-exploration, you might want to reflect on the outcome you’re actually trying to achieve, and why you’re going all-out to explain that being defiant in the face of the unacceptable is pointless.
Anyhow, since all of that nonsense sucks ass, I will continue contributing zero dollars, and zero cents to non-essential industries that sell shit that i don’t want, at price points and with subscription schemes that I didn’t ask for.
The other example that I set, is not striving to be the bucket of ice water dumped on other people’s refusal to bend the knee.
In the simplest of terms, I’m advocating for fighting for your life when attacked, and you’re suggesting that you may as well do nothing when attacked, unless you know you will win.
I don’t think Indie games are going anywhere. If anything, this is probably an opportunity for them to feast.
The big AAA titles that, by our own admission, we already aren’t playing? They may go a different direction that we don’t like, but they also aren’t a product (or service, as it may become) for me.
I’m not worried about this happening. Your top shelf hardware might stop selling in the consumer market, but most indies will run on a potato. You can run a lot of them via emulation on cell phones.
They’re certainly welcome to attempt selling that to me.
They won’t like the outcome, but that’s more of a them problem.
Doesn’t that rely on everyone having a fast internet connection with a high data cap? That’s not the case for a lot of people
We’ll see. I hope you’re right. Similar tactics in the housing market have created situations in which rent is cheaper than mortgage payments, which is a bad portent.
what? no they haven’t. Rent is usually more expensive than mortgage payments we just set up the finanical system to disallow most renters from taking out a mortgage because its more profitable to trap people in an endless cycle of payment.
I mean, I’ve already got a backlog of 100+ Steam and GOG games I haven’t played yet, plus something like 1000+ retro game ROMs, and I’m happy to go digging in the crates as it were. There are already more games available than I’ll have time to play in my lifetime.
They push cloud gaming and I go fuck off entirely.
Do you play Call of Duty every release?
No? Because millions of people do.
Do you think your actions are offsetting that?
Because they are not. Nobody is going to sell hardware to a couple thousand folk who won’t get in with the times.
Based on your tone, you come from the Randy Pitchford school of public relations.
If you’re uncertain about what I’m getting at, my recent spending on Borderlands, and Borderlands related goods, averages out to zero dollars and zero cents.
I’m telling you that we are in a minority.
And that unless we can convince at least 50% of gamers to not buy into that, we lost.
EA should have been bankrupt twenty times over, but people keep buying their games.
Same as with everything.
I keep fighting, but this fight has been lost since the start.
I understand your thesis, but am offering mine as a wholesale replacement instead of a rebuttal:
The entire gaming industry produces non-essential goods.
No one video game, nor the entire industry, have a monopoly on entertainment.
I dictate what products and services I want, the video game industry does not.
If the industry doesn’t produce products that I want, the industry gets zero of my entertainment dollars, or attention.
I can and will spend my entertainment dollars elsewhere, and have experienced zero stress as a result.
Why “fight” an industry that needs you more than you need it? They cannot stop me from disregarding them, which certainly makes getting money out of me a challenge.
I cannot stress enough how much of a Them problem this actually is.
I’m just trying to explain to you that YOU might do your thing, but YOU do not sway the industry.
I’ve known and understood the dangers of dark practices, yet those companies were rewarded regardless of me not buying into them and warning others.
All I’m saying is that you and I represent an insignificant minority of money in gaming, and if the majority won’t shop for PC hardware, that will cease to be sold. Completely. You and I will not change that.
Like I said, I understand your Resistance is Futile story. As a separate topic for self-exploration, you might want to reflect on the outcome you’re actually trying to achieve, and why you’re going all-out to explain that being defiant in the face of the unacceptable is pointless.
Anyhow, since all of that nonsense sucks ass, I will continue contributing zero dollars, and zero cents to non-essential industries that sell shit that i don’t want, at price points and with subscription schemes that I didn’t ask for.
The other example that I set, is not striving to be the bucket of ice water dumped on other people’s refusal to bend the knee.
In the simplest of terms, I’m advocating for fighting for your life when attacked, and you’re suggesting that you may as well do nothing when attacked, unless you know you will win.
Nah, I fight as much as I can, but it’s been decades, and nothing meaningfully improved.
It just sucks to see the world march goosesteppingly into madness.
How have we “lost”?
I don’t think Indie games are going anywhere. If anything, this is probably an opportunity for them to feast.
The big AAA titles that, by our own admission, we already aren’t playing? They may go a different direction that we don’t like, but they also aren’t a product (or service, as it may become) for me.
Again: if majority of players stop buying PC hardware, it will not be sold AT ALL. That’s it. Indies will fade slowly after.
I’m not worried about this happening. Your top shelf hardware might stop selling in the consumer market, but most indies will run on a potato. You can run a lot of them via emulation on cell phones.