• SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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    No justification to attack a sovereign nation

    Maduro and Trump are friends

    Maduro gets to escape his country and save face instead of being assassinated or executed.

    Trump gets to manufacture a conflict so he can start martial law and become a dictator, and to distract from us learning he came inside little girls.

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    I’m gunna be honest: I don’t really give a fuck if it was legal or not; it was wrong. It’s wrong to mutate the histories, identities, and fates of other nations and it always opens a portal to new monsters. Venezuala’s problems are Venezuala’s to solve and grow and learn from. If Canada sent JTF-2 to kidnap Trump and his inner inner circle while they’re visiting Africa or some shit, pretty sure every fucking American would be upset about that, and most Canadians, though momentarily relieved, would fear the reckoning. The US’s leadership is foolish to not fear the reckoning because they think they’re untouchable. Foolish. At this point it would be a “who shot Mr Burns” situation.

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      Venezuela’s problems aren’t even Venezuela’s to solvd, their problem is an economic embargo by the USA, how are they supposed to solve that?

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    Of course there isn’t. Posing the question is doing the work to help Trump normalize it.

    There’s no major media left that will deal in reality.

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    The pretext Trump used for the war was that Venezuela is flooding the US with fentanyl.

    Venezuela doesn’t produce fent and it’s not a significant trans-shipment source. The actual sources are US pharma companies and China.

    I believe that international law frowns on starting imperialist wars of aggression on the basis of lies. And, just as the war is an attempt to deflect attention from the Trump-Epstein files, so is the war on drugs lie a deflection from the real reason for the invasion, which is to enrich US oil companies.

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    Is wine beer? Do bears read Nietzsche? Did Epstein kill himself?

    It’s asking the obvious. The answer is yes.

    I was joking, it’s clearly NO duh

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    The more we talk about that, the less we talk about how the President is a pedophile rapist, human trafficker, and murderer.

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      …con man, misogynist, fat piece of shit, failed businessman, racist, deathly sick, fraudster, incontinent, criminal… yes, each time he adds a new adjective describing his actions or how disgusting of a person he is we talk less about the previous.

      Maybe we just start requiring “etc.” on any list.

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      There are things more important sometimes.

      But yes, the child trafficking US president deserves to be thrown in jail for life.

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        more important

        Idk if the Epstein files are more important than the Venezuela invasion, literally. But I think it’s more foundationally important.

        What I mean by this is that the Epstein files show definitively that trump is a criminal with evidence of child rape and whatever other financial crimes. This means he is an illegitimately elected president, should never have been allowed to assume office legally and should be in prison. The evidence is in the Epstein files.

        If this is true, which it is, the decisions he’s been making, including Venezuela should never have happened.

        By law the Epstein files were supposed to be released, and they haven’t been. The DOJ and trump are hiding the evidence. Rule of law and our DOJ aren’t working as designed.

        Personally I think the Epstein fiasco is still the most important as it means trump shouldn’t even be here doing all this stuff right now.

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          The Pam Bondi bribery scandal should have been enough to make both ineligible for office even before his first term.

          However, it seems the lesson US society collectively learned from Watergate is that the executive should be immune from prosecution.

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          He is here though and we all knew before that he’s a criminal. The Epstein files won’t bring him to justice. So they don’t really matter, do they?

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            Nope that is the dumb thing people keep screaming Epstein files but nothing we’ll come of it. He’s rich and rich people don’t suffer consequence unless they need a fall guy.

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            That’s the thing. We already knew he was a womanizer, pedophile, rapist. Maybe taking about something new will make the right finally snap out of it because they don’t care about the fore mentioned things

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              Maybe taking about something new will make the right finally snap out

              Lmfao.

              It’s something like 39%, that 39%(I don’t remember the exact number) of support is a literal cult that NEVER stops supporting him. That’s his absolute floor. He has never gone below that level of support and never will. There were people actively questioning if being a pedophile was really all that bad just to defend him. Megan Kelly literally defended him saying “at least they weren’t like 8, they were barely legal.” Those people would accept any rational Fox news gave them as to why trump needed to kill their own family members and take their property away leaving them homeless. They’d blame themselves.

              It fucking disgusts me and leaves me feeling completely hopeless…

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          Trump being a criminal pedo was coming knowledge and it didn’t stop him from getting elected because Americans are too fucking stupid to know any better.

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      We’re not supposed to talk about the US kidnapping a leader of a sovereign nation?

      I think we can walk and chew gum.

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      So oppressed with the Epstein files that well do absolutely knowing you want us to ignore what is happening now. The us invaded a sovereign country and is taking it over.

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      Redirecting every criticism to some other thing is exactly how flooding the zone is supposed to work.

      Well done.