What would Donald Trump have to do for the U.S. media to frame what he is doing in Venezuela as an act of war?
This isn’t a rhetorical question. It’s an actual inquiry, the pursuit of which can reveal a lot about how U.S. media’s default posture is state subservience and stenography. In the past few months, President Trump has committed several clear acts of war against Venezuela, including: murdering — in cold blood — scores of its citizens, hijacking its ships, stealing its resources, issuing a naval blockade, and attacking its ports.
Then in a stunning escalation on early Saturday morning, the administration invaded Venezuela’s sovereign territory, bombing several buildings, killing at least 40 more of its citizens, kidnapping Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro and his wife from their bed, and announcing they will, henceforth, “run” the country.
And yet none of these acts of brazen aggression, violence, and violations of international law have, in any sustained or meaningful way, been referred to as acts of war, a coup, or invasion in U.S. mainstream media reporting.
We no longer have a free press. Haven’t for awhile, actually, it’s just painfully obvious now.
It’s a reflection of the lack of working class power in the imperial core. In the past, the capitalist class felt it had to manufacture consent with a sense of democratic rule (it was as false then as it is now).
The lack of any class consciousness has allowed our ruling class to stop using resources to maintain the charade. Why not spend less effort and just declare that we are an Imperialist nation that seeks to exploit the world’s poor? Hell, it might even make stupid right wing reactionaries feel “strong”, as they struggle to pay rent, as long as they get a hard-on for our military.
This invasion is not different from the past Imperialist history of America. The only difference is how plainly they are admitting to it.
Except for all of those outlets who are calling it an act of war. The ones we’re all in here pretending don’t exist for some reason.
Do you believe it was an act of war?
No they think it was illegal but justified 😭
Every war except the current one, as always.
Well that and it’d be better if dems were doing it.
Of course thus is roughly their thinking so 100% would have no issues at all, even though don’t really have any, if it was a dem
it’s okay because he just took the dictator out and stupidly left the vp in place instead of putting in that Nobel peace prize winner
And for those doubting
https://lemmy.world/comment/21382769
it’s okay for congress to use as much force as possible if they think it’s for the good
A Dem would never do this, because DNC are actually good people.
Dems definitely would and most in power don’t even act like they would be good people
I love how centrists expect everyone to just agree with them that “the second worst genocide party” is “good.”
Yes, it was an illegal act of war without Congressional approval.
See you in a few days when you’re defending their vote on this.
You don’t retroactively approve a strike, this will be an illegal Trump admin act of war no matter how much time passes.
See you in a few days.
I thought they were going with “special military operation”
Like the one in Ukraine?
Quick to call it the Department of War, quick to silence anyone calling it an act of war.
He tells it like it is, until he lies. Which is of course all the time. I think conservatards confuse telling the truth with having no filter.
conservatards confuse telling the truth with having no filter.
This is so correct!
You and I think that the right to free speech means that the government isn’t allowed to prevent anyone from saying what they want and it can’t ban peaceful protests, but conservatives see it from an entirely more self centred perspective.
They confuse free speech with being able to speak freely, which is why they get so mad at people interrupting them out contradicting them, and are prepared to enact censorship to achieve it!
Nice catch that makes it even worse
Trump has always wanted us to leave NATO. I think we’re going to get expelled soon with the direction we’re going now.
NATO is literally just another name for the American military. Maybe you’re joking. But, if you’re not, you really don’t understand NATO.
It’s like saying “Germany will be removed from the EU”. It’s literally the heart of it. If America leaves NATO it basically stops existing in any form of what it ever was.
Sure. You could still call it NATO. But it would be like calling McDonalds by the same name if you removed all the non vegan entries from the menu.
The US will never be expelled from NATO unless the US decides it’s time to dissolve NATO for its own political interest.
It was 21 years between WW1 and WW2. I could see the EU rearming over the next 20 years such that the US becomes irrelevant.
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The EU needs the US because of Ukraine. Their defense industry will take years to develop. Even after, US Nato involvement is free money that the EU doesn’t have to spend.
Besides, the US has been invading and overthrowing countries for decades without NATO saying anything.
Even the blatant 2003 Iraq War was only France refusing their airspace. There was nothing from the EU about dissolving NATO because of US imperialism.
Do you think the EU is going to take it on the chin when Trump occupies Greenland?
nope. the US should be booted, Ukraine falls, and can blame it ON the US. fast forward and a generation later a cohort of pissed off MS Flight Sim enthusiasts will provide us with another day to “never forget.”
Kind of gross that you fantasize about this sort of thing.
its literally history
Okay…?
Kind of gross that you fantasize about repeating history where thousands of civilians die.
EDIT: Look, maybe your intention is that you’re not advocating for this outcome but acknowledging the possibility? But the way I read it sounded like you wanted it to happen, as many Tankies unironically do.
i’m showing the parallels to history as history does tend to rhyme doesn’t it.
You didn’t deny it
A lot of people are comparing this to the Iraq War, but the thing is the USA had to drum up evidence to provide to US Congress and to the UN and NATO before it ever tried entering Iraq. Bush, Cheney, and the CIA came up with pictures of Aluminium Tubes and claimed they were for developing Nuclear Weapons (supposedly they were actually for Hydro-electric).
What Trump has done is far from anything that a US President has ever done. Do not normalize this.
It wasn’t normal when gwb did it. The shit wing of the party voted for it then and they’ll happily go along with it now for the exact same reasons. I realize he didn’t endorse harris, but trying to rehabilitate the reputation of a war criminal like you’re doing here isn’t going to get him to endorse newsom either.
Fuck off trying to normalize the crimes of the Trump admin.
I’m not. I despise gwb even more than you want his approval.
“I’m not normalizing Trump’s crimes, I’m just saying they’re normal if you ignore the fact that every other president followed rules.” You’re a buffoon.
“I’m not normalizing gwb’s crimes, because he’s dreeeeeamy”
The blockade was an act of war, capturing Maduro is just the next phase of a war already in progress.
“There is no truth in the Pravda and no news in the Izvestia” applies just as well to the propaganda heavy present day media in most of the West as it did to the Soviet Union’s.
Western news outlets doing reporting of western atrocities in the same manner they’ve done for 100+ years
Average lemmitor: “LITERALLY SOVIET STALIN COMMUNISM”
No one calls it a war when it just starts, that is for the history books. I think modern wars just look very different until the mass killing starts and then it becomes easy again.
Hitler had bombed his own government building and China and Japan had been fighting by 1933.
Honestly we could probably call this already a cold war since it has been using proxies, and kidnappings and select strikes if it never escalates to everyone, bu t I think history will look back at this as a time of war even if we dont say so now.They will not be forgotten about when the sentences are read. Even the ones “just reading a teleprompter”…
Start sharpening the Guillotines
Maduro and Trump are friends
Maduro gets to escape his country and save face instead of being assassinated or executed.
Trump gets to manufacture a conflict so he can start martial law and become a dictator, and to distract from us learning he came inside little girls.
You’re copypasting your made up propaganda in every single post, you’re pathetic.
