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    People may have shrugged off Trump as a grifter, but Miller struck me as a pathetic excuse for a politician the very first time I saw him

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      He’s a true believer in white nationalism. And he’s not strictly wrong, either. In a world of Might Makes Right, the uncontested heavyweight champion can and does have a “right” to send in the goons, because there’s no countervailing force.

      Miller’s got the reins of this monster and he’s outspokenly using it in a way the advisors for Obama and Bush and Clinton admins were more sheepish about. But you’re foolish to believe the Bin Laden raid into Pakistan was any less internationally criminal than the attack into Caracas. It was just more politically palatable. In the same way, the US support for the overthrow of Assad and the installation of form Al Qaeda in Iraq leader Ahmed al-Shara and our proxy war against Yemen has absolutely been “just about the oil” passing through the Suez Canal.

      Miller’s committed the unspeakable crime of saying the quiet part out loud. And his voice is annoying to listen to. But he’s not breaking from our international policy in a material sense. He’s just coming at it like he’s six whiskeys deep at the Klan Rally rather than four martinis in at the Yale Business Club.

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        But you’re foolish to believe the Bin Laden raid into Pakistan was any less internationally criminal than the attack into Caracas.

        There’s a big difference between kidnapping the president of a country and kidnapping somebody who is internationally wanted and who the country in question denies harbouring.

        Sure, both are violations of international law, but one is easy more serious than the other.

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          There’s a big difference between kidnapping the president of a country and kidnapping somebody who is internationally wanted and who the country in question denies harbouring.

          Maduro was wanted in the US for a host of alleged crimes. And the problem wasn’t Pakistan hiding Bin Laden, it was their refusal to release him. If he was living in Ahmadabad openly, we’d have still gone in.

          Sure, both are violations of international law, but one is easy more serious than the other.

          One of them is more popular than the other. That’s the only difference. Get enough Americans especially angry at Maduro and the Caracas raid earns far more cheers than jeers.

          That’s what has hobbled the Trump administration more than his Bush and Reagan era peers. People like him less. The policies haven’t really changed.

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            Maduro was wanted in the US for a host of alleged crimes

            IN THE US. Not in Venezuela. Why do USians think their laws apply outside the country?

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              IN THE US. Not in Venezuela.

              To my knowledge, Bin Laden wasn’t charged with any crimes in Pakistan.

              Why do USians think their laws apply outside the country?

              Because they know they have the power to project law enforcement actions over national boundaries.

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        We do not live in a world where might makes right. To argue or think so is an extremely ill thought.

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          It’s a realistic thought. You can cling to moral ideology, but it won’t save you from the hard stop at the end of your long rope.

          Trump’s official power is a directly consequence of his loyal military goon squads. That power ends where the US capacity to inflict violence terminates. J6 failed because the police sided with Congress and the incoming President. The next one won’t fail, because all those liberal loyalists will have been purged from their roles.

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            I don’t think it’s a realistic thought.

            We are more than eight billion people, and I am confident that the majority of us people want to live in a world with clear rules based on some form of justice and not on fickle power.

            If you want to be a peasant, it’s your choice. If you are a US citizen, I think you should grow some balls and stop this gang of bullies from ruining your country and the whole world.

            As a grown-up, with family, friends and influence, I am doing my part to make sure that this is not our future. I am not allowing the crazy guy with the gun to take control over the world. And you shouldn’t do that either.

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      Miller isn’t even a politician, nobody voted for him.

      He is just the evil puppet master of Trump.