I don’t even know what else to add to this headline. This is so fucked up and tragic scary and infuriating and it will in no way slow the resistance.

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    I wrote and deleted a comment multiple times. I am convinced that violence is the only ethical option left to us. Every member of ICE and every Republican is a mass murderer and must be treated as such. No more amnesty for murderers, despots, fascists, or their supporters. They must be held accountable for their horrors and we cannot afford to wait. The world cannot afford to wait.

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      The problem they don’t seem to realize is that at some point people are going to start thinking that if ICE is around there’s a good chance that they’re going to kidnap or kill you, even if you’re white. People are going to start shooting first. They aren’t giving people much choice and there are so many guns in the US.

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      This is correct but a lot of people have been in denial. Anti-gun people should have been learning how to shoot as of January 7th, 2021… but here we are.

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      There definetely is something wrong I think too. How are people not on the streets finishinh what Luigi started?

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      We are under violence, we are in the middle of violence, what you refer as “violence” is basic survival, self defence. It is not violence.

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        Physical self-defense from an existential and immediate threat implies interceptive and reciprocative violence from the defender.

        Violence in such situations is not only justified, but is required.

        In simple terms, one isn’t justified to start the fight, but one is morally obligated to end it, if they have the power to do so.

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          Also, not sure if I mentioned it in this thread, because I have been spamming non stop in every conversation.

          ORGANIZE.

          all this “self defence” or “getting armed” is useless and 100% BS if we do not organize, you will only end up as a lone corpse. Organize, make contacts, groups, consistently attend local politic meetings with them, you have absolutely no idea how much power a handful of people have when they consistently raise their collective voices.

          This is a systemic attack, not an individual attack, they aren’t sending an ICE agent to you personally. they are an institutional threat to everyone. we need collective self defence.

          Organize, distribute ICE whistles, if you are white enough to be “moderately safe” from ICE follow them and warn everyone. build mutual aids, connections with similar groups in nearby regions.

          a 100.000 lone wolves are usless. 100.000 organized mass is unstoppable.

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      Come on man, not every Republican is a mass murderer what a dumb thing to say. Like saying every Democrat is a lesbian, how fucking stupid lmao

      Must they be held accountable? Fucking of course.

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        What you mean? Republican is aggregation of all bad things, racist, pedophile, rapist, murderer, stupidity the list goes on

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        not all of them are mass murders, but almost all of them fantasize to commit shootings. if you seen one or talked to one, they love to use thier gun at the slightest incident.