• null@piefed.nullspace.lol
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    4 days ago

    I’ll start with the simple one:

    And if 50 died in ICE custody under Trump, 20 would die under Biden

    Sounds like we agree that Trump is worse in that category, then.

    If under Trump, he deported 800 immigrants, biden/Obama deported 1200

    We can use those numbers if you like:

    What you’re saying is that if under Trump, 100 illegals came in, and he violently deported 800 people by pulling them out of their cars, that’s better than if under Biden 1000 illegals came in and he turned 900 of them away at the border, and sent another 300 back who had lived in the US for a year.

    Why do you believe that you be true?

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      3 days ago

      Feel like we’re long past getting anything out of this conversation. So as other instances like to say, I disengage.

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        3 days ago

        Really? Are you not at all ashamed of yourself here? Just gonna keep on spreading blatantly baseless claims?

        To recap:

        • You tried to say that Biden/Kamala were worse on deportation than Trump has been so far
        • Snarkily claimed that other people “didn’t actually look into it”
        • Doubled down to insist that your source included 2025 data until enough people had pointed out that it doesn’t that you had to admit you didn’t do a cursory reading of your own source (the header literally says it ends at Dec 2024, it should have been one of the first things you read)
        • Pivoted to say that you actually meant Trumps first term
        • Failed to produce a single piece of data to prove that either

        And then despite all that, even when I just granted you that everything you say is true and gave you the ultimate out, you still can’t explain why higher number = bad.

        Anyone with an ounce of decency would have taken the L and admitted they were wrong ages ago. I’m baffled by what motivates you to just gaslight and pivot like this.

        Disengage indeed. You never should have engaged in the first place if you are truly too incompetent to even read your own sources.

        Please grow a spine.