• Postimo@lemmy.zip
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    3 days ago

    It’s not whataboutism to detail the list of failures from democrats that built the current situation we are in. They are weak party that offers little and provides less, and they fail to win much of anything because of it.

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      3 days ago

      It is always whataboutism to try to shift the conversation to something you think you can argue for more easily.

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        3 days ago

        Definitionally, talking about two causally linked things is not whataboutism. You could argue it’s shifting blame, and I would still disagree, but at least it would be coherent.

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          Oh well, since I have something to prove to you and the thread doesn’t speak for itself I will now spend 30 minutes arguing with you about it. Oh wait it’s not 2019 anymore.

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            3 days ago

            It is a bit academic at this point. I just hoped that liberals contend with the reality that you have to align with your voters, rather than always trying to set blame on the millions that stay politically disaffected.