“Fcking bitch,” Jonathan Ross, the ICE agent who killed Renee Good, says in the video.*
A newly released cellphone video, apparently filmed by the ICE officer who killed Renee Nicole Good, and obtained by Minneapolis-based Alpha News, a conservative-leaning nonprofit news site, appears to sharply contradict the U.S. government’s public account of the fatal Wednesday shooting, raising new questions about whether the agent who opened fire was ever in immediate danger.
The footage was recorded on a cellphone by ICE officer Jonathan Ross, not by a department body camera. It captures Ross’s own perspective as he approaches Good’s maroon Honda Pilot during what the Department of Homeland Security claims was a federal operation in south Minneapolis.
You should ask them about the peace prize and how he was going to supposedly be the peace president.
I don’t really get how the conservatives that supposedly lost it over W and Iraq, but came back for Taco because “war bad” (yeah right) can keep all that cognitive dissonance straight?
The fact is that W’s big failings on: the economy AND Katrina AND Iraq made them feel bad because liberals were getting proven RIGHT. They needed a brief timeout, pretended to be for the made-up astroturfed “teabagger” movement (later rebranded the “tea party” when they realized everyone else knew what teabagging meant, and it made them look gay, not like they were some alpha males getting one over on Obama) and there were a lot of very sudden “independents” among us. So they did that brief timeout thing, then came roaring back and went ballz deep on being a Republican when Taco gave them a permission structure to escape their culpability for all of W’s failings AND a permission structure to be openly racist, misogynist, etc…I don’t think they really give a shit about wars of aggression being stupid and a drain on our society, nevermind morally objectionable, they just hated that the liberals were all proven correct about Iraq.
They still call Donny the peace president and that he brought peace to the Middle East and he is saving America. It’s hard to have an opposing view when it’s just me vs 9 other people at my job. Most of the time I just listen to them and laugh to myself.
It’s those types of situations where I put on my “just asking questions” mode, LOL. Stuff like “how does it count as ‘peaceful’ to be invading cities and states of America, using ICE? How does it count as ‘peaceful’ to be sending in people to kidnap another country’s leader? What would we do if another country did it to us? Donnie says he be glad to accept the Nobel Peace Prize from the winner of that prize, is that how prizes even work? Or is that just Donnie’s participation trophy? In what other case has anything like that ever happened, and the second-hand recipient of a prize ever considered a legitimate owner of that prize?”
It absolutely drives them nuts, especially if they expect to get a rise out of you. I don’t get mad, I don’t raise my voice. I don’t lecture or finger-wag. I just ask more questions; turn their answer around on them, ask them how that makes them feel, how they arrived at that line of thinking, how they personally think any of Taco’s worst behaviors and policies will benefit them as individuals in their everyday real, non-online lives, etc.
I do it mostly to plant seeds, though. People tend to just dig in more if you get oppositional. If you ask questions, and don’t get angry, it definitely changes the energy.
Oh yea I have done that. I like to play dumb and ask “oh really how does this help us?” And it’s like watching a cartoon first they get all excited to tell me their theory and it’s basically a cookie cutter retelling of a trump speech. And they go so off topic just like their dear leader it’s amazing. And by the end of it they are red in the face and pissed off at everything for no reason.
They are rather easy to get into this loop where they are getting more and more frustrated, since they are almost arguing with themselves. Even though they are also driven on feels and vibes in this mode, I still think they are more likely to have an original thought or question their feelings this way.
Going straight at them just has them yelling slogans and memes and jingoistic nonsense at you. They get to just reel off a playbook of whatever talking points du jour they’ve been programmed with.
Keeping cool and calm, never getting angry, never raising your voice, but looking them directly in the eyes and not taking the rage bait, and asking them questions about their assertions, their assumptions, and their feelings and their thought processes really puts them on the back foot.
Oh yes I’ve done that before too and it works wonders for me. One thing I enjoy doing is completely changing the subject when they are all hoped up on politics I like to just throw a random question like. “Did you try that new food truck in town?” Or something outa left field. And they just completely changed their attitude instantly. I swear I could probably be a good hypnotist in my town.