Elon Musk threatened to sue Ashley St. Clair for custody of their infant son after she voiced support for transgender people.

  • Smoogs@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    Most of us are total morons at that age.

    Speak for yourself.

    I’ve known 12 yr olds with more maturity and learning about owning their actions, dealing with heavy shit like death, pronouns and minority rights than a 53 yr old just in this past year. Heck, just in the last month I was confronted with a child no older than 6 owning his mistakes and apologizing for it. No excuses.

    Part of the problem is allowing people to treat others like doormats, shirking responsibility over their actions brushing it off like an age, era and/or gender thing and this does nothing but create infighting over stupid shit like ageism.

    Be better than this.

    She can own she made a mistake like any fully functioning adult would.

    • GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca
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      20 hours ago

      She can own she made a mistake like any fully functioning adult would.

      “I feel immense guilt for my role. And even more guilt that things I have said in the past may have caused my son’s sister more pain,” St. Clair wrote, referencing Musk’s daughter Vivian Wilson, who is trans. “Idrk how to make amends for many of these things but I have been trying incredibly hard privately to learn + advocate for those within the trans community that I’ve hurt.”

      Isn’t that exactly what she did?

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        19 hours ago

        Damn, that’s an excellent apology. It’s obviously worth nothing if the actions don’t reflect a genuine desire to change, but it’s worth everything if they do.

        I’m sick and tired of alienating those who change for the better. I want people to feel like progressives are the good and welcoming people who just want everyone to be equal and the best they can be.

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          15 hours ago

          I’m sick and tired of alienating those who change for the better. I want people to feel like progressives are the good and welcoming people who just want everyone to be equal and the best they can be.

          This is why I am not a big fan of Leopard’s Eating My Face posts.* Most of the time it’s regular people realizing their mistake. When people realize their mistakes, these are the cracks for progressives to spread a progressive ideals.

          *The only time I enjoy Leopards Eating My Face posts are when the subject had a power and chose not do anything.

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          18 hours ago

          Yeah, I don’t have any horse in this race, any more than the average person should, and I haven’t put any effort into seeing who’s made the choice to have kids with Elon, so this is everything I know about her, but that certainly sounds like a well thought out, heartfelt apology, with no equivocation. People need to be given room to grow if the world is going to get any better, even in a shitty time like this.

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        18 hours ago

        I see that and Good for her. However my comment was directed to the above commenter making excuses on her behalf using age. Im circumventing a flawed thought process of excusing abuse and bullying should be owed forgiveness over weak arguments such as age without ownership or meaningful apology.

        Personally I’m glad she herself showed maturity here and didn’t use such excuses.

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            6 hours ago

            And people holding them and they holding themselves accountable: this is growth. We’re saying the same thing here. Not sure where we are missing each other.

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      18 hours ago

      There has to be room for forgiveness if you ever want people to positively change. She admitted that she was wrong and is trying to atone for it by advocating for the cause.

      People can absolutely change as they get older and gather more life experiences, and we should be supporting those who realize the things they thought before were wrong and are working on changing themselves for the better.