At least one person in Sen. Mark Kelly’s (D-Ariz.) orbit recently joked that his office should send the Trump administration a gift basket when Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth an…
Well when one of them come out as “good” then I’ll let that dumb ass catchphrase that whatever pundit has you all parroting about the democrats carry some weight. I’m not going to let “openly and unjustifyably bad” become synonymous with good.
Well then the solution of course is voting in your country’s primaries to get the people in that you want in, or be the change you want to see in the world and run for office. This is assuming you are an American of course.
But sitting in the corner pouting because whomever is running for office hasn’t passed some sort of purity test for you adequately enough is equally as stupid and one of the reasons the United States has the orange moron in charge right now.
I don’t have exact numbers in front of me, but their (the US) voter turn out is abysmally low. Added to that protest votes (or non-votes) and the like, certainly showed everyone that the protest voters were Big Mad™.
Yeah, I’m not American, and I do a lot of community building and activism where I am. I’ve also voted in every election, and I see how the candidates are chosen and how the numbers are counted and I see that that system is bullshit and will not positively effect our society on its own. Will I stop voting? Will I stop encouraging people to vote? Of course not. But I’m not going to pretend that it’s good enough by itself, or even that the system is good in any way at all. And to try to tell people it is, is just… like you might as well be a psyop for the elites. Because that is what you are doing at the end of the day.
That’s awesome that you are working for positive change! More people need to do that, the world would be a much better place!
And yes, from what I read Kalama was by far not a perfect candidate and the American’s democratic party is definitely not free from sin, horrible decisions, etc. But one, I’m not telling people that on Lemmy that that part is perfect and they should absolutely vote for them without thinking, but look at the messaging of each of those parties. And look at the American system of politics. They are stuck in a two party system. Which party is the one that wants to deport everyone who isn’t white, and which one is the one that doesn’t want to do that?
But sometimes you gotta work inside the system as it is while working for change. Like doing community building and activism, voting your conscience. More people need to be the change that they want to see by running for local office and positions. Slight progress forward or even maintaining the status quo is preferable to having a huge slide back, in my opinion anyway.
Would it be great if we could have a worldwide progressive movement way to the left, hell yeah it would! I don’t think that’s gonna happen though, so, it’s damage mitigation time. Making small changes, chipping away at the fascism that seems to be creeping up all over the place.
Anyway yeah, keep fighting the good fight and keep pushing to move things to the left, to support your community and neighbors. But I don’t think it’s pretending everything is okay to work with what ya got. Even if it isn’t perfectly progressive. And it certainly isn’t a psyop to know who you are dealing with and what their concerns and issues are by meeting them at least part of the way.
Oh yeah? Liberals have been pushing that rhetoric for the last 20 years. Hows it working out for you guys over there? You feel like the fascism is being chipped away?
can always hire the uncharismatic experts and go-getters but we do need to finally have a charismatic leader with violently good character
AOC will be 39 in 2028.
For me to be excited about AOC she has to be to the left of Bernie. The dems wont allow that.
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
Well when one of them come out as “good” then I’ll let that dumb ass catchphrase that whatever pundit has you all parroting about the democrats carry some weight. I’m not going to let “openly and unjustifyably bad” become synonymous with good.
Well then the solution of course is voting in your country’s primaries to get the people in that you want in, or be the change you want to see in the world and run for office. This is assuming you are an American of course.
But sitting in the corner pouting because whomever is running for office hasn’t passed some sort of purity test for you adequately enough is equally as stupid and one of the reasons the United States has the orange moron in charge right now.
I don’t have exact numbers in front of me, but their (the US) voter turn out is abysmally low. Added to that protest votes (or non-votes) and the like, certainly showed everyone that the protest voters were Big Mad™.
Yeah, I’m not American, and I do a lot of community building and activism where I am. I’ve also voted in every election, and I see how the candidates are chosen and how the numbers are counted and I see that that system is bullshit and will not positively effect our society on its own. Will I stop voting? Will I stop encouraging people to vote? Of course not. But I’m not going to pretend that it’s good enough by itself, or even that the system is good in any way at all. And to try to tell people it is, is just… like you might as well be a psyop for the elites. Because that is what you are doing at the end of the day.
Cool, then it doesn’t matter if you’re excited about AOC.
That’s awesome that you are working for positive change! More people need to do that, the world would be a much better place!
And yes, from what I read Kalama was by far not a perfect candidate and the American’s democratic party is definitely not free from sin, horrible decisions, etc. But one, I’m not telling people that on Lemmy that that part is perfect and they should absolutely vote for them without thinking, but look at the messaging of each of those parties. And look at the American system of politics. They are stuck in a two party system. Which party is the one that wants to deport everyone who isn’t white, and which one is the one that doesn’t want to do that?
But sometimes you gotta work inside the system as it is while working for change. Like doing community building and activism, voting your conscience. More people need to be the change that they want to see by running for local office and positions. Slight progress forward or even maintaining the status quo is preferable to having a huge slide back, in my opinion anyway.
Would it be great if we could have a worldwide progressive movement way to the left, hell yeah it would! I don’t think that’s gonna happen though, so, it’s damage mitigation time. Making small changes, chipping away at the fascism that seems to be creeping up all over the place.
Anyway yeah, keep fighting the good fight and keep pushing to move things to the left, to support your community and neighbors. But I don’t think it’s pretending everything is okay to work with what ya got. Even if it isn’t perfectly progressive. And it certainly isn’t a psyop to know who you are dealing with and what their concerns and issues are by meeting them at least part of the way.
Oh yeah? Liberals have been pushing that rhetoric for the last 20 years. Hows it working out for you guys over there? You feel like the fascism is being chipped away?
Are you suggesting they only hire the best people? Where have I heard that before?