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    16 hours ago

    I don’t believe you, because there is not a shred of evidence of that.
    Occam’s Razor tells us it is much more plausible that Americans are just stupid, and didn’t learn the lesson from 2 periods of Bush Jr. and the first period of Trump.
    The American society is sociopathic and hold individual freedom as a religion. And they see Trump being a malignant narcissist as a perfect example of individual freedom, and they don’t recognize the sociopathy because they see it as a virtue.

    This is to me the way more plausible explanation, that we have seen play out in many presidential elections in USA, Where already Reagan’s uncompromising war mongering campaign won over the much more moral and humane Carter that wanted environmental sustainability. Religious fanatics are fundamentalists, and fundamentalists vote to the right, and psychopaths are fascists and vote to the right. Trump election victory is 100% based in the insanity of the American society.

    I am not saying all Americans are insane, there are many good Americans, but just as a person that has terminal cancer has cancer cells in the body that makes the body sick, doesn’t mean that all cells are cancer cells. And in the same way American society is sick, because there are so many “sick” people that behave in ways that are harmful, that the society as a whole is sick.

    Seen from a country that is one of the best democracies in the world, there is absolutely no doubt about it. It is very obvious that American society as a whole is very very sick.

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      11 hours ago

      American here, and one who grew up in what is now trump country. Well, I guess I still live in a republican area now, but I started out rural.

      Your conclusion about how the society as a whole is sick is 100% spot on.

      I don’t do much international travel, but I did get to spend a little bit of time in europe in the past couple years. Most of it in scandinavia of all places!

      The difference is crazy, even not counting all this recent crazy shit. On the surface things look similar. But being immersed in it let all the little details sink in simultaneously.

      There’s an air of dignity and respect that I am just not used to in american society. Even just the instances of “we couldn’t have that, somebody would immediately ruin it” were constant.

    • sarcasticsunrise@lemmy.world
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      16 hours ago

      Okay buddy, yowza that was a whole fuck ton of a response. Good on ya. I’m not in any way defending the dumbing down and weakening of critical thinking here. No shit, obviously we’re getting dumber in the United States. It’s been embarrassing since my childhood. I’m not going to bat for us.

      Anyway, there have been a few instances where there have been slip-ups with Trump saying “Elon is so good with the voting machines in Pennsylvania”, or with Rogan admitting how in awe he was of Elon looking at his phone saying Trump had won just as opening ballots had started.

      Also Trump barely winning in swing states (ridiculous ) where it was a bullet ballot only supporting him, but being generally consistent along previous years trends that supported Democrats… like I agree, yes we’re stupid, whip me more Euro Daddy, but the fact that the Dems didn’t immediately demand a recount is so cucked

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        7 hours ago

        slip-ups with Trump saying “Elon is so good with the voting machines in Pennsylvania”

        OK I hadn’t sen that, that’s an indication.