tldr: Possibly, the diplomatic push is mostly US-France.
US and France started all of this Turkey would like PKK/YPG dealt with asap. Ofc even if STG hated Kurds they would push for this but for example 20% of new officer graduates in Aleppo are Kurds. SDF wanted a deal like what Barzani has in Iraq but Syria rejected it ( Turkey too) bcs of PKK/YPG. So far they haven’t talked about the same rights for Armenians, Assyrians, Greeks, etc. Their communities are smaller and in mixed areas so I doubt they would get the same legal rights as Kurds like in the case of language learning in school. Fidan the FM of Turkey and STG have been pushing the line “we love Kurds we just hate PKK” to try to chip away at SDF power so that people flip over. Still I think progress is being made but nobody can predict the future of course. I think it looks promising.
If you look at the way the government reacted to the massacres committed there is progress. There was an immense number of warcrimes committed on the coast mostly by ex-SNA( Turkish proxy) units, 1.4k dead, after that Syria started centralizing the military( still people like Abu Amsha have more autonomy, he is also well liked by Ankara despite ethnically cleansing Kurds in Afrin). Syria also embedded police units to run after the military ones in order to prevent war crimes from happening even before the events in the south. Israel bombed the space between the primary military units and the supporting ones tho and SAA units were seen assaulting civilians. For Sheikh Maqsoud, so far we have footage of only 4 wacrimes( mistreatment of POW) 2 of which of snipers , 1 of which w/ suicide belt. Also they made sure to use mostly ex-HTS, only 1 ex-SNA unit ( 72nd) was used. Compare that to 1.4k civilians killed on the coast.
If this deal builds towards a further SDF integration it would be far better not only for Kurds, Syrians in general human rights wise, but also al-Sharaa will have a counter to Abu Amsha and ex-SNA units that are loved by Turkey. If anything al-Sharaa is bringing Syria back in the Arab fold and trying to juggle alliances and influences so that he can govern. If STG builds good institutions in the future or if it can survive remains to be seen.
this deal builds towards a further SDF integration it would be far better not only for Kurds, Syrians in general human rights wise, but also al-Sharaa will have a counter
It’s a delicate balance. Afaik, but I’m not sure, the integration of all parties in the SDF was to lower the risk of future conflict, ensure rebuilding and aid, but also to sort of force the groups to work together. In this, imo Saudis and Turkey want different things. I don’t think anything sharia will help minorities in the future with their Separate religions… And a more moderate way - say initiatives like respecting Kurdish - is the way forward.
The atrocities you mentioned took place before the regime fell ? I thought part of the truce after the Assad regime fell, was that past mistakes were forgiven, including war crimes, or were these recently done?
#add When you say that France & USA are pushing the way, are they translating the Saudi and Türkiye agenda into a sort of one big plan; or are ther actually many coexisting plans?
UPDATE: Syria’s Deputy Defense Minister, Syrian commander of Turkmen origin Fehim İsa, has resigned.
Isa said he resigned in protest of the systematic marginalization of Syria’s Turkmen, in contrast to the positive discrimination and linguistic/cultural rights granted to Syrian Kurds.
I will just post Eli Tsurkov’s comment: " oh no! What will the Syrian Army do without his skills in mercenary work outside of Syria, ethnic cleansing of Kurds, looting, running torture dungeons and protection rackets? "
Nope, after the regime fell. There was an Assadist uprising on the coast in March 2025 where government-aligned forces, overwhelmingly ex-SNA massacres more than a thousand civilians. Druze was Hijri proclaims his authority at the end of March after Syrians in Homs chanted racist chants against Druze and Israeli Druze even started entering to fight in Syria, ethnically cleanses several tribes ( one of them - the Sirhan tribe was almost entirely wiped out in Syria but Jordanian bedouins and forces intervened). Sharaa initially blocked tribes and ary from entering, he then let in angry unorganised tribes that killed Druzes, then the SAA entered and did more violations.
There are a lot different visions of Syria most of which see it as united. Turkey wants 100% Turkish puppet but the US is trying to balance out Israel and Turkey and other actors so that the Middle East is stable. ( Israel did 750 bombings and 125 ground incursions in first 3 months post 08.12.2024( fall of Assad regime), in 7 months - 987 air & artillery strikes, 421 ground incursions, occupied ~180 km^2 of land, had Swuieda as a puppet. There are also Syria-Israel talks and there were recently Turkey-Israeli talks that could lead to more detente. Saudi mostly wants to invent and get Syria aligned with the GCC. UAE is also having a stake in Syria and with the new Saudi-UAE cold war we might see where Syria goes.
Also the links to resources maniacalmanicmania put in the lemmy.world Syria channel he made is amazing. If you want 1 person to listen to Wassim Nasr, who works for France 24 has got you covered.
Will guarantee better rights and economy for Syrians. Rn if you are a anti-PKK Kurds, like ENKS, you will get prosecuted, there is no real freedom of speech in SDF, Arabs get ethnically cleansed, etc. Integration guarantees that it will no longer see itself as hostile to Syria and Syrians will no longer hate SDF. This law that was signed is a step that shows Syria really is for all and not just a statement that was said ( as I said before STG never did much to assure Kurds they will have the same rights they get in SDF). No integration basically means war.
There are hardliners on both sides who are skeptical of the integration process or even insist on a military solution. On the STG side, I consider the SNA commanders to be particularly problematic; It’s a fact that they’ve killed and tortured Kurdish civilians + looted their homes in the past. In northeastern Syria, the main issue lies with the political leadership, namely the PYD.
Mazloum, on the other hand, is a good man - I am 100% convinced of that. He has a difficult past, but so does Sharaa. However, since Mazloum is the military leader not the political one, he cannot simply make all decisions on his own. Some figures within the political leadership (PYD) are problematic, for example Aldar Khalil or Salih Muslim. Both are problematic for the integration process. They are PKK hardliners and continue to employ child soldiers and suicide bombers, which were officially banned in 2019.
Integration( with autonomy, rights, etc) is what most Kurds in SDF support too, including Mazloum Abdi, not just Kurds in STG.
tldr: Possibly, the diplomatic push is mostly US-France.
US and France started all of this Turkey would like PKK/YPG dealt with asap. Ofc even if STG hated Kurds they would push for this but for example 20% of new officer graduates in Aleppo are Kurds. SDF wanted a deal like what Barzani has in Iraq but Syria rejected it ( Turkey too) bcs of PKK/YPG. So far they haven’t talked about the same rights for Armenians, Assyrians, Greeks, etc. Their communities are smaller and in mixed areas so I doubt they would get the same legal rights as Kurds like in the case of language learning in school. Fidan the FM of Turkey and STG have been pushing the line “we love Kurds we just hate PKK” to try to chip away at SDF power so that people flip over. Still I think progress is being made but nobody can predict the future of course. I think it looks promising.
If you look at the way the government reacted to the massacres committed there is progress. There was an immense number of warcrimes committed on the coast mostly by ex-SNA( Turkish proxy) units, 1.4k dead, after that Syria started centralizing the military( still people like Abu Amsha have more autonomy, he is also well liked by Ankara despite ethnically cleansing Kurds in Afrin). Syria also embedded police units to run after the military ones in order to prevent war crimes from happening even before the events in the south. Israel bombed the space between the primary military units and the supporting ones tho and SAA units were seen assaulting civilians. For Sheikh Maqsoud, so far we have footage of only 4 wacrimes( mistreatment of POW) 2 of which of snipers , 1 of which w/ suicide belt. Also they made sure to use mostly ex-HTS, only 1 ex-SNA unit ( 72nd) was used. Compare that to 1.4k civilians killed on the coast.
If this deal builds towards a further SDF integration it would be far better not only for Kurds, Syrians in general human rights wise, but also al-Sharaa will have a counter to Abu Amsha and ex-SNA units that are loved by Turkey. If anything al-Sharaa is bringing Syria back in the Arab fold and trying to juggle alliances and influences so that he can govern. If STG builds good institutions in the future or if it can survive remains to be seen.
It’s a delicate balance. Afaik, but I’m not sure, the integration of all parties in the SDF was to lower the risk of future conflict, ensure rebuilding and aid, but also to sort of force the groups to work together. In this, imo Saudis and Turkey want different things. I don’t think anything sharia will help minorities in the future with their Separate religions… And a more moderate way - say initiatives like respecting Kurdish - is the way forward.
The atrocities you mentioned took place before the regime fell ? I thought part of the truce after the Assad regime fell, was that past mistakes were forgiven, including war crimes, or were these recently done?
#add When you say that France & USA are pushing the way, are they translating the Saudi and Türkiye agenda into a sort of one big plan; or are ther actually many coexisting plans?
Tnx for your elaborate answer.
UPDATE: Syria’s Deputy Defense Minister, Syrian commander of Turkmen origin Fehim İsa, has resigned.
Isa said he resigned in protest of the systematic marginalization of Syria’s Turkmen, in contrast to the positive discrimination and linguistic/cultural rights granted to Syrian Kurds.
I will just post Eli Tsurkov’s comment: " oh no! What will the Syrian Army do without his skills in mercenary work outside of Syria, ethnic cleansing of Kurds, looting, running torture dungeons and protection rackets? "
Nope, after the regime fell. There was an Assadist uprising on the coast in March 2025 where government-aligned forces, overwhelmingly ex-SNA massacres more than a thousand civilians. Druze was Hijri proclaims his authority at the end of March after Syrians in Homs chanted racist chants against Druze and Israeli Druze even started entering to fight in Syria, ethnically cleanses several tribes ( one of them - the Sirhan tribe was almost entirely wiped out in Syria but Jordanian bedouins and forces intervened). Sharaa initially blocked tribes and ary from entering, he then let in angry unorganised tribes that killed Druzes, then the SAA entered and did more violations.
There are a lot different visions of Syria most of which see it as united. Turkey wants 100% Turkish puppet but the US is trying to balance out Israel and Turkey and other actors so that the Middle East is stable. ( Israel did 750 bombings and 125 ground incursions in first 3 months post 08.12.2024( fall of Assad regime), in 7 months - 987 air & artillery strikes, 421 ground incursions, occupied ~180 km^2 of land, had Swuieda as a puppet. There are also Syria-Israel talks and there were recently Turkey-Israeli talks that could lead to more detente. Saudi mostly wants to invent and get Syria aligned with the GCC. UAE is also having a stake in Syria and with the new Saudi-UAE cold war we might see where Syria goes.
Also the links to resources maniacalmanicmania put in the lemmy.world Syria channel he made is amazing. If you want 1 person to listen to Wassim Nasr, who works for France 24 has got you covered.
Why is SDF integration desirable?
Will guarantee better rights and economy for Syrians. Rn if you are a anti-PKK Kurds, like ENKS, you will get prosecuted, there is no real freedom of speech in SDF, Arabs get ethnically cleansed, etc. Integration guarantees that it will no longer see itself as hostile to Syria and Syrians will no longer hate SDF. This law that was signed is a step that shows Syria really is for all and not just a statement that was said ( as I said before STG never did much to assure Kurds they will have the same rights they get in SDF). No integration basically means war.
There are hardliners on both sides who are skeptical of the integration process or even insist on a military solution. On the STG side, I consider the SNA commanders to be particularly problematic; It’s a fact that they’ve killed and tortured Kurdish civilians + looted their homes in the past. In northeastern Syria, the main issue lies with the political leadership, namely the PYD. Mazloum, on the other hand, is a good man - I am 100% convinced of that. He has a difficult past, but so does Sharaa. However, since Mazloum is the military leader not the political one, he cannot simply make all decisions on his own. Some figures within the political leadership (PYD) are problematic, for example Aldar Khalil or Salih Muslim. Both are problematic for the integration process. They are PKK hardliners and continue to employ child soldiers and suicide bombers, which were officially banned in 2019.
Integration( with autonomy, rights, etc) is what most Kurds in SDF support too, including Mazloum Abdi, not just Kurds in STG.