Veganism is a good cause and we can all learn a thing or two about sustainability from them. Stop acting like they’re out here to take your oh-so-precious meat away from you. Eat a vegetable or two so you can get that turd out of your ass.
Veganism isn’t about sustainability. Plant-based diets are less harmful to the environment but eating a plant-based diet because you care about climate change has nothing to do with veganism.
Veganism is a moral philosophy on the treatment of animals. Animals are individuals. Individuals must only be treated as ends, never as means. The experiences of animals are real and matter. Their suffering is identical in nature to your own. It harms us when we take pleasure in cruelty and violence. The animals we create are owed the exact same unconditional love and protection as our own children.
I don’t think you can speak for all vegans. It’s a diet, not a religion.
From the Wikipedia page: “People who follow a vegan diet for the benefits to the environment, their health or for religion are regularly also described as vegans.”
I can’t speak for all feminists either but I can tell you what feminism IS. There is not a prescriptive definition of every word, but there are for some words. The prescriptive definition exists, and you probably saw it on that exact page, but you chose to quote something else, in an argument on the internet that you don’t even care about. It’s amazing how non vegans always want to argue about stuff they just looked up this moment for the purpose of arguing about something they neither know or care about.
Dictionaries are often treated as the final arbiter in arguments over a word’s meaning, but they are not always well suited for settling disputes. The lexicographer’s role is to explain how words are (or have been) actually used, not how some may feel that they should be used, and they say nothing about the intrinsic nature of the thing named or described by a word, much less the significance it may have for individuals. When discussing concepts like veganism, therefore, it is prudent to recognize that quoting from a dictionary is unlikely to either mollify or persuade the person with whom one is arguing.
The lexicographer’s role is to explain how words are (or have been) actually used, not how some may feel that they should be used
You interpreted this to mean that “how [you] may feel that they should be used” is more correct than “how words are (or have been) actually used.” That’s on you, dude.
Just because you can’t be mollified or persuaded doesn’t mean you’re correct; otherwise maga would be the champions of debate.
I eat meat and you’re being a twat.
Veganism is a good cause and we can all learn a thing or two about sustainability from them. Stop acting like they’re out here to take your oh-so-precious meat away from you. Eat a vegetable or two so you can get that turd out of your ass.
Veganism isn’t about sustainability. Plant-based diets are less harmful to the environment but eating a plant-based diet because you care about climate change has nothing to do with veganism.
Veganism is a moral philosophy on the treatment of animals. Animals are individuals. Individuals must only be treated as ends, never as means. The experiences of animals are real and matter. Their suffering is identical in nature to your own. It harms us when we take pleasure in cruelty and violence. The animals we create are owed the exact same unconditional love and protection as our own children.
It goes “never as a mere means.”
People always forget the “mere” part.
I don’t think you can speak for all vegans. It’s a diet, not a religion.
From the Wikipedia page: “People who follow a vegan diet for the benefits to the environment, their health or for religion are regularly also described as vegans.”
I can’t speak for all feminists either but I can tell you what feminism IS. There is not a prescriptive definition of every word, but there are for some words. The prescriptive definition exists, and you probably saw it on that exact page, but you chose to quote something else, in an argument on the internet that you don’t even care about. It’s amazing how non vegans always want to argue about stuff they just looked up this moment for the purpose of arguing about something they neither know or care about.
Read the whole article.
it’s neither a diet nor a religion. it’s a philosophy and way of living
Diet:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/diet
Veganism is, by definition, a diet. It just happens to (often) be based on a philosophy by the same name.
You wouldn’t say “pragmatism isn’t an approach to problem solving! It’s a philosophy!” It’s both.
Dictionaries are often treated as the final arbiter in arguments over a word’s meaning, but they are not always well suited for settling disputes. The lexicographer’s role is to explain how words are (or have been) actually used, not how some may feel that they should be used, and they say nothing about the intrinsic nature of the thing named or described by a word, much less the significance it may have for individuals. When discussing concepts like veganism, therefore, it is prudent to recognize that quoting from a dictionary is unlikely to either mollify or persuade the person with whom one is arguing.
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marriam webster
“Dictionaries don’t give the correct definition of words; how I feel a word should exclusively be used is what ultimately matters” -commie
this is a strawman. prima facie bad faith
Not at all.
You interpreted this to mean that “how [you] may feel that they should be used” is more correct than “how words are (or have been) actually used.” That’s on you, dude.
Just because you can’t be mollified or persuaded doesn’t mean you’re correct; otherwise maga would be the champions of debate.
I quoted the same lexicographer you did.
If you quote something without properly annotating it in an academic setting, it can be considered plagiarism.
You used nothing to indicate that that block of text was actually a quotation.
Found the vegan.
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i kind of doubt it.
I remember you! you’re the one recommending people download the fucking burger king app lol
I don’t know what this refers to, but it APPEARS to be an epic burn.
that’s a mischaracterization of the conversation
lol mhmm.
How the hell did you get all of that from my comment? Projecting much?