Summary: Republicans are 50/50, everyone else is strongly opposed.

  • RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca
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    20 hours ago

    Jesus Christ I had some hints that Republicans would be coming to their senses, but fucking 50/50?!? These people are fucking lost, too far gone. They are beyond normal legal or democratic avenues. This is a violent, fascist authoritarian cult, and they need to be stopped.

    If they don’t change their minds when their country threatens real hostilities against former allies, then they will not be swayed by anything except force, combined with real, uncompromising economic destruction.

    Americans will need a general strike and armed protests at this point.

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      3 hours ago

      and they need to be stopped.

      A full-on embargo would be nice, and ironic.
      The caveat being a whole lotta world depends on AWS and such.

    • Windex007@lemmy.world
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      16 hours ago

      Alternative perspective, for what it’s worth:

      50/50 is actually comparatively huge. Considering everything else has been 90/10.

      The first departure from your god-king is always the hardest. I expect for many, this is the first break, and will make any subsequent break mentally easier.

      Also keep in mind that people who identify/lean Republican has taken a little more than a 10% haircut since January 2025. Any “republicans say” is an increasingly smaller subset of the total voting population… getting more concentratedly nuts as they boil off the more rational ones. Even with this more concentrated version of Republicans, it’s STILL not popular.

      Don’t get me wrong, it’s not GREAT… but there is a trend line. It’s not moving as fast as it should, but it IS moving.

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        4 hours ago

        There are some positive signs, with some MAGAs turning on Trump over Epstein, his warmongering, and possbily over Greenland.

        However, the pessimist in me expects that they’ll get re-educated by Joe Rogan and FOX News soon enough, into understanding the absolute necessity of putting nukes and ICBM interceptors on Greenland.

      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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        7 hours ago

        i dont see that trend, they are all in it or not. its a zero sum for them. “all the rational ones are likely remaining quiet while still supporting maga on the issue or in the maga-sphere already.”

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      19 hours ago

      They love authoritarianism, more than they love other people, democracy, anything. There’s a certain amount of neural wiring involved, as people lean into it, their amygdala grows larger and their fear of “others” and “chaos” intensifies.

      When I saw my mom posting a fundraiser for the Ice murderer’s family last week, I realized a cop could beat me to death in front of her, and she’d tend to his bruised knuckles in apology. That was the very last straw, I don’t know her anymore.

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        16 minutes ago

        I’ve seen enough of the die hard maga folks talk that I see why authoritarianism appeals. It’s annoying to think and if someone just simplifies the world for them, they find that much more appealing.

        To scrutinize the actions of their leader is just too much work, so they just slip into the comfortable position of “this is my guy, I agree with whatever he says, even if I were to be even vaguely at odds with him, is just because he is better than me and accepting whatever is just the right call”

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        7 hours ago

        there was brain scan study to confirm this a while ago, the amgydala is larger on average compared to non-conservatives.

      • RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca
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        18 hours ago

        Yeah David Frum famously wrote “If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”

        He’s a former neocon Bush speechwriter and an ardent anti-Trumper. He would know.

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        16 hours ago

        That’s the distrust I think about every day, too. That so many would sell their families out for nothing.

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      17 hours ago

      Republicans have come to their senses. They’re not in denial anymore, they realized they’re evil and they love it.

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      19 hours ago

      It’s not even former allies. Denmark is a current ally according to treaties that are signed into US law. Sure the US is effectively no longer part of NATO but all of the official reasons for invading Greenland could be accomplished by Trump admitting some agreements made by past Presidents were actually good.

      This is all because one deranged old child molester wants to put his name on the map and a whole bunch of people are too gutless to admit that’s what’s going on.

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      19 hours ago

      I’ll be generous for a second and presume that the vast majority of Magas are racist but not directly evil, so to speak, just naive, dumb, and brainwashed by decades of poor education and fox news

      Either way, once this is over I’d happily vote for taking away voting rights from anyone Republican. Not for being evil, but for being too dumb to be able to vote

      • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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        17 hours ago

        I disagree. Anyone should be allowed to vote. But I’d happily support mandatory civics classes to be able to do so, where you actually have to pass to get your voter registration number.

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          13 minutes ago

          Hey look, the “civics” lessons in the South are oddly favoring conservative talking points…

          Historically tests for voting competency have not been to ensure educated voters, but to disenfranchise groups. You don’t want to open that door.

        • 0x0@lemmy.zip
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          3 hours ago

          Anyone should be allowed to vote.
          have to pass to get your voter registration number.

          So not anyone, got it.