I begged people to vote against this guy. I begged people to support Kamala. I begged Biden to step down when it became clear he was not up for it. I begged people to not let the Israeli/Palestinian/Iranian/Russian orchestrated war in Gaza be a reason why we turned our country over to authoritarian fascists and Project 2025. I begged people to recognize what was at stake at home and abroad. I’m not shocked or surprised by what I’m seeing today. Not only is this what they said they were gonna do, this is just an extension of what they tried to do last time.
I’m from Portland, Oregon. A blue county, in a blue city, in a blue state. Trump sent masked gestapo goons to attack us back in 2020, during a global pandemic, while people rioted and forest fires filled the sky with smoke. We’ve seen this movie before. My state is not even considered one of the states that are in play in American elections. And yet, I protested (I’ll continue to protest), I gave what little money I could to politicians who wasted it, and I voted.
So what’s left for me to do?
Go buy a gun and throw my life away by declaring a 1-man war against the fascist US government in a futile attempt to solve a problem that other people created?
Nope. Nah dude, no thanks. As tempting as that is when I see the news, I’m not gonna do that.
For now I’ve done all that I can reasonably do to try to fix a situation that the idiots and assholes of this country created. I’ll continue to speak out. I’ll continue to vote. But I’m not gonna throw my one life away over this shit.
Whether I like it or not, America voted for this–tariffs, ICE, techno oligarchy, imperialism, censorship, the absolute pettiness… ALL of it. This is what America wanted, and this is what America gets. Like Socrates, I’ll defer to the “democratic” process.
I’ve done way more than the average American, and frankly, way more than the people in other parts of the world who continue to use American social media, consume American media, buy American products from American stores. I don’t want to hear that I haven’t done enough when people in other countries can’t even stop using X.com, drinking Starbucks, using Windows, subscribing to Netflix, buying iPhones, or watching crappy Disney Marvel/Star Wars schlock.
Call me when everyone else has done the bare fucking minimum.
When the Allies invade to liberate America from this Great Evil it will be our duty then to assist them and help put the maga in gibbets where they belong.
Until then, I agree with you. I will not throw my life away in service of a futile cause. We are massively outnumbered and need help.
Two-thirds of Americans are irredeemable trash, and only a small fraction of the remainder truly recognize what is happening. I have been loudly warning people about this since Republicans stole the 2000 election, and yet their numbers only grow. Deprogramming such a large number is not feasible.
I wholeheartedly disagree with Soulg. I respect your action and think your first message was very nuanced and not really “what the post was criticising”.
I think the critique goes more against Us-americans who have the standard view that they’re something special. Even though we’re in a lefty corner of the internet, it’s something too common.
And if those were straggler opinions, it wouldn’t even that bad. But sometimes you have 20 American exceptionalists against 10 diverse comments from all over the world (including sensible USA).
Well, first of all, I’d like you to remember Trump is not the only democratically elected American president who invaded other countries. In fact, I can’t think of a President in my lifetime who didn’t. Trump isn’t uniquely warmongering, he’s just uniquely blatant about it.
Reading this meme as about Trump specifically, instead of about America’s foreign policy since, oh, the 19th century or so, does not reflect to your credit.
Second, I’d like you to remember that the “Americans” who “voted for this” are not suffering the consequences. Other people are.
Who is Trump hurting? The people in refugee camps and in the world’s poorest countries, where more than half a million people have died of disease and starvation because of Trump’s USAID cuts.
Trump is not unique in his willingness to starve people for American interests, either. He’s just uniquely blatant in his contempt for soft power and black people.
And then there are the immigrant families hiding in their homes, afraid to go to work or send their kids to school, because ICE is patrolling their neighborhoods looking for non-white bodies to fill their quotas. And while you can blame Trump for new and more blatant ICE enforcement, ICE isn’t using any authority it didn’t already have, and it’s enforcing an immigration system that has been blatantly unfair and profoundly broken under both parties for decades.
I mean, Harris promised more aggressive immigration enforcement, too. And the Democrats are, right now, supporting a new budget that gives ICE $10 billion and CBP $20 billion more, instead of trying to rein them in. Yet again, Trump isn’t different from the rest of American politics. He’s just more blatant and uglier.
And let’s not forget the people of Gaza (yeah, don’t think I didn’t see you dismissing Gaza as a distraction) and the people of Venezuela and the people of Greenland and the people of Syria and the people of Yemen and the people of Libya and God I could go on and on and fucking on.
White American citizens? Trump’s going to give them $2,000 in October as a “tariff rebate” to encourage them to vote Republican. So yeah, y’all are doing fine.
In other words, saying Americans got what they deserve is tone deaf, foolish, and ignores the fact that the people suffering from the Trump administration’s policies are overwhelmingly not Americans, and the further fact that those people had also been suffering under Biden policies, and under Obama policies, and most especially under Bush policies, and so on and so forth.
So what do I want you to do? When people vent about America and Americans, don’t jump in and seek reassurance that you’re one of the good ones. Don’t ask people to pat you on the head and praise you because you supported a warmonger in blue over a warmonger in red.
And especially don’t dismiss the suffering and fear and anger of America’s victims by saying Americans are getting what they deserve.
Because Americans might deserve it, but the rest of the world doesn’t.
Yes actually they absolutely want you to grab a gun and go off and die needlessly, they make that very clear everytime they post and demand our blood for the sins of the maga
You are who this meme is about.
Cool. And so you want me to do what exactly?
I begged people to vote against this guy. I begged people to support Kamala. I begged Biden to step down when it became clear he was not up for it. I begged people to not let the Israeli/Palestinian/Iranian/Russian orchestrated war in Gaza be a reason why we turned our country over to authoritarian fascists and Project 2025. I begged people to recognize what was at stake at home and abroad. I’m not shocked or surprised by what I’m seeing today. Not only is this what they said they were gonna do, this is just an extension of what they tried to do last time.
I’m from Portland, Oregon. A blue county, in a blue city, in a blue state. Trump sent masked gestapo goons to attack us back in 2020, during a global pandemic, while people rioted and forest fires filled the sky with smoke. We’ve seen this movie before. My state is not even considered one of the states that are in play in American elections. And yet, I protested (I’ll continue to protest), I gave what little money I could to politicians who wasted it, and I voted.
So what’s left for me to do?
Go buy a gun and throw my life away by declaring a 1-man war against the fascist US government in a futile attempt to solve a problem that other people created?
Nope. Nah dude, no thanks. As tempting as that is when I see the news, I’m not gonna do that.
For now I’ve done all that I can reasonably do to try to fix a situation that the idiots and assholes of this country created. I’ll continue to speak out. I’ll continue to vote. But I’m not gonna throw my one life away over this shit.
Whether I like it or not, America voted for this–tariffs, ICE, techno oligarchy, imperialism, censorship, the absolute pettiness… ALL of it. This is what America wanted, and this is what America gets. Like Socrates, I’ll defer to the “democratic” process.
I’ve done way more than the average American, and frankly, way more than the people in other parts of the world who continue to use American social media, consume American media, buy American products from American stores. I don’t want to hear that I haven’t done enough when people in other countries can’t even stop using X.com, drinking Starbucks, using Windows, subscribing to Netflix, buying iPhones, or watching crappy Disney Marvel/Star Wars schlock.
Call me when everyone else has done the bare fucking minimum.
When the Allies invade to liberate America from this Great Evil it will be our duty then to assist them and help put the maga in gibbets where they belong.
Until then, I agree with you. I will not throw my life away in service of a futile cause. We are massively outnumbered and need help.
Two-thirds of Americans are irredeemable trash, and only a small fraction of the remainder truly recognize what is happening. I have been loudly warning people about this since Republicans stole the 2000 election, and yet their numbers only grow. Deprogramming such a large number is not feasible.
I wholeheartedly disagree with Soulg. I respect your action and think your first message was very nuanced and not really “what the post was criticising”.
I think the critique goes more against Us-americans who have the standard view that they’re something special. Even though we’re in a lefty corner of the internet, it’s something too common.
And if those were straggler opinions, it wouldn’t even that bad. But sometimes you have 20 American exceptionalists against 10 diverse comments from all over the world (including sensible USA).
Well, first of all, I’d like you to remember Trump is not the only democratically elected American president who invaded other countries. In fact, I can’t think of a President in my lifetime who didn’t. Trump isn’t uniquely warmongering, he’s just uniquely blatant about it.
Reading this meme as about Trump specifically, instead of about America’s foreign policy since, oh, the 19th century or so, does not reflect to your credit.
Second, I’d like you to remember that the “Americans” who “voted for this” are not suffering the consequences. Other people are.
Who is Trump hurting? The people in refugee camps and in the world’s poorest countries, where more than half a million people have died of disease and starvation because of Trump’s USAID cuts.
But beyond that, US and EU sanctions - which is to say, economic warfare - have killed 38 million people through starvation and disease since 1970.. In many countries, USAID was necessary because the United States meddled in politics to cause wars, dictatorships, and refugee crises, or because US-based companies made corrupt deals with local governments to extract their resources at the expense of the people.
Trump is not unique in his willingness to starve people for American interests, either. He’s just uniquely blatant in his contempt for soft power and black people.
And then there are the immigrant families hiding in their homes, afraid to go to work or send their kids to school, because ICE is patrolling their neighborhoods looking for non-white bodies to fill their quotas. And while you can blame Trump for new and more blatant ICE enforcement, ICE isn’t using any authority it didn’t already have, and it’s enforcing an immigration system that has been blatantly unfair and profoundly broken under both parties for decades.
I mean, Harris promised more aggressive immigration enforcement, too. And the Democrats are, right now, supporting a new budget that gives ICE $10 billion and CBP $20 billion more, instead of trying to rein them in. Yet again, Trump isn’t different from the rest of American politics. He’s just more blatant and uglier.
And let’s not forget the people of Gaza (yeah, don’t think I didn’t see you dismissing Gaza as a distraction) and the people of Venezuela and the people of Greenland and the people of Syria and the people of Yemen and the people of Libya and God I could go on and on and fucking on.
White American citizens? Trump’s going to give them $2,000 in October as a “tariff rebate” to encourage them to vote Republican. So yeah, y’all are doing fine.
In other words, saying Americans got what they deserve is tone deaf, foolish, and ignores the fact that the people suffering from the Trump administration’s policies are overwhelmingly not Americans, and the further fact that those people had also been suffering under Biden policies, and under Obama policies, and most especially under Bush policies, and so on and so forth.
So what do I want you to do? When people vent about America and Americans, don’t jump in and seek reassurance that you’re one of the good ones. Don’t ask people to pat you on the head and praise you because you supported a warmonger in blue over a warmonger in red.
And especially don’t dismiss the suffering and fear and anger of America’s victims by saying Americans are getting what they deserve.
Because Americans might deserve it, but the rest of the world doesn’t.
Yes actually they absolutely want you to grab a gun and go off and die needlessly, they make that very clear everytime they post and demand our blood for the sins of the maga