• UnspecificGravity@piefed.social
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      6 hours ago

      You have to win the war first. You have to actually start fighting in order to do that. We haven’t seen that from America yet. What’s it gonna take?

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        5 hours ago

        People are dying in the streets fighting. It just happened. That’s what a lot of this is about. In the history of the world there is very little immediate success for these kinds of movements. Unfortunately, it’s a process to build up momentum and engage in solidarity. You pointing the finger at Americans as though authoritarianism and government overreach isn’t a growing problem everywhere is not helping. The problem facing America is in part the result of other countries making exceptions for America on the world stage for generations. Now the government has turned against our allies and they’re regretting having relied on America for protection. Had they not been so reliant on America in the first place we wouldn’t have been able to swing our might in whatever direction the government wanted without fear of repercussions. The cowardice of other leaders has made our leaders worse and now we all are suffering, because make no mistake, the world suffers when people in it suffer. Hopefully the end of the tunnel results in the righting of the ship, but plenty of suffering has already happened and will continue to happen so please don’t act like people haven’t already died fighting against this, because they have.

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          4 hours ago

          They are dying because they DIDN’T fight. Every time this happens it starts with compliance and then they get murdered anyways.