I dont wish anybody to die, but bullshit like this is just high production value tik tok trend.
Normalizing and idolising stunts like this encourages morons to try it them self and they end up with broken neck.
Just last autum three kids climbed in to radio mast, because they were doing some stupid challenge video. One of them ended up taking the express elevator to ground. Yay, sad parents without a kid and two traumatised friends, because of silly content.
I would love to just put it under natural selection, but its clear that they did what they did because of social media and because they had seen similiar content done by somebody else.
It literally is though. People have been doingstupid shit for recognition for ages and getting killed.
Call it what you will. Darwin award or whatever, but as long as people pay attention, they will find a way to do stupid risky shit for clout, regardless of how idiot-proof we attempt to make society.
I strongly believe everyone is free to do as they wish and die how they please. It is the act of broadcasting and glorifying and downplaying the danger of something as stupid as free climbing.
Im the guy who calls morons a moron and maybe if there were more guys like me, then last autum some poor paramedic would not had to scrape some kids remains from the concrete while their partner were trying to calm down two traumatised teenagers.
Before the social media, and smart phones every moronic thing that every moronic adolescent did, had no way to spread instantly to thousands other teenagers screens.
Evel Kneivel was jumping canyons on a dirt bike long before social media. People doing death defying stunts is a tail as old as time. I’ve watched many videos of kids climbing towers and doing stupid shit like hanging of the edge well over a decade ago too. It’s not Honnold that pushed them there
The false equivalence comparing Evel and Honold is wild. One took way more money than the average dope has, was obviously promoted as reckless as fuck, and did nearly kill him a bunch of times.
Compare that to the cost of a chalk bag, shoes, and a park pass, and tons more morons will be able to emulate their equally moronic idol.
Also, who here knows anything about El Cap? It’s a fucking cake walk for the first 1000 feet, then it gets technical. So now some dipshit that watched free solo is a thousand feet of the valley floor and panicking, unable to climb farther up and absolutely incapable of downclimbing, which is much harder.
Money shouldn’t have any part in this debate. Risk is risk. I’d also argue most people that see free solo and get inspired to try climbing something like El cap wouldn’t physically be able to climb very high. People like Honnold make it look easier than it is where most people can’t do a pull up. The ones that can know the risks.
I am telling you that the early part of the climb is very easy. Large holds, big cracks, very obvious chalking and easy route finding.
And if you are comparing jumping a motorcycle across the snake river to free climbing, the cost of entry is absolutely a factor in how dangerous broadcasting the stunt is. Again, the former requires a jump, a pretty big fucking jump. That requires engineering, fabrication, materials. It required a permit, to build that infrastructure in that location at that time. It is not an equivalent comparison to purchasing shoes and going for a drive. Not to mention the people that already had gear but not enough experience to fully understand the danger
I dont wish anybody to die, but bullshit like this is just high production value tik tok trend.
Normalizing and idolising stunts like this encourages morons to try it them self and they end up with broken neck.
Just last autum three kids climbed in to radio mast, because they were doing some stupid challenge video. One of them ended up taking the express elevator to ground. Yay, sad parents without a kid and two traumatised friends, because of silly content.
I would love to just put it under natural selection, but its clear that they did what they did because of social media and because they had seen similiar content done by somebody else.
So yeah. I see stunts like this as harmfull.
It literally is though. People have been doingstupid shit for recognition for ages and getting killed.
Call it what you will. Darwin award or whatever, but as long as people pay attention, they will find a way to do stupid risky shit for clout, regardless of how idiot-proof we attempt to make society.
Death defying stunts have been around longer than social media. If someone wants to roll the dice who are you to tell them no.
I strongly believe everyone is free to do as they wish and die how they please. It is the act of broadcasting and glorifying and downplaying the danger of something as stupid as free climbing.
I don’t think anyone was downplaying the danger. I’m pretty sure that was the draw.
Im the guy who calls morons a moron and maybe if there were more guys like me, then last autum some poor paramedic would not had to scrape some kids remains from the concrete while their partner were trying to calm down two traumatised teenagers.
Before the social media, and smart phones every moronic thing that every moronic adolescent did, had no way to spread instantly to thousands other teenagers screens.
Evel Kneivel was jumping canyons on a dirt bike long before social media. People doing death defying stunts is a tail as old as time. I’ve watched many videos of kids climbing towers and doing stupid shit like hanging of the edge well over a decade ago too. It’s not Honnold that pushed them there
The false equivalence comparing Evel and Honold is wild. One took way more money than the average dope has, was obviously promoted as reckless as fuck, and did nearly kill him a bunch of times.
Compare that to the cost of a chalk bag, shoes, and a park pass, and tons more morons will be able to emulate their equally moronic idol.
Also, who here knows anything about El Cap? It’s a fucking cake walk for the first 1000 feet, then it gets technical. So now some dipshit that watched free solo is a thousand feet of the valley floor and panicking, unable to climb farther up and absolutely incapable of downclimbing, which is much harder.
Money shouldn’t have any part in this debate. Risk is risk. I’d also argue most people that see free solo and get inspired to try climbing something like El cap wouldn’t physically be able to climb very high. People like Honnold make it look easier than it is where most people can’t do a pull up. The ones that can know the risks.
I am telling you that the early part of the climb is very easy. Large holds, big cracks, very obvious chalking and easy route finding.
And if you are comparing jumping a motorcycle across the snake river to free climbing, the cost of entry is absolutely a factor in how dangerous broadcasting the stunt is. Again, the former requires a jump, a pretty big fucking jump. That requires engineering, fabrication, materials. It required a permit, to build that infrastructure in that location at that time. It is not an equivalent comparison to purchasing shoes and going for a drive. Not to mention the people that already had gear but not enough experience to fully understand the danger
The building was probably pretty expensive to build.