OnePlus is a Chinese company. Anybody who trusted a Chinese company to respect privacy, consumer rights, and ownership freedom is a complete idiot.
And yet my LinkedIn is still full of people complaining about how much the EU over-regulates
Cause that is expected of China but not EU
Gone are the days when oneplus used to be consumer friendly company. The parent company CEO is taking advice from some wannabe Elon musk. All these people who say they understand business but have no understanding of technical knowhow shouldn’t be allowed to become business leaders but the world we live in is becoming a shithole because the bootlickers are being given these top roles.
OnePlus was never a consumer friendly company. People only liked it because their phones were cheaper than the standard market prices, however, most people understood that this price comes with the caveat that their device is designed, manufactured, and controlled by a Chinese company. Everybody knew that the CCP had their tentacles in these devices, and so it was only a matter of time before things like this start happening.
I would happily give my data to CCP than American companies.
I spend my money on products which are European and Asian. I completely avoid American products and services like a plague.🤢🤢🤮
Now who’s good bootlicker? Yes, you are! Want to bend over and give me paw?
While you keep deepthroating the boot of an evil regime, I, on the other hand, refuse to give my data to any government or corporation and I do my damnest to make sure my data stays secure.
At the end of the day the makers of smartphones determine if you can mod their products to their liking or not, and in most cases they really hate it because they want to continue selling phones and make them more difficult to fix without special tools.
How I was then doing fine with a feature phone allowing me to play music and take pictures. That was in 2009.
so does that mean we’re done with OnePlus?
I personally never trusted Chinese phone no matter how good they were.
Ironically, the best phones for security and privacy are Google’s Pixel phones because they’re the only ones that GrapheneOS supports
Havent we for a while?
Miss my Oneplus 7 Pro. popup cameras <3
I’ve still kept my 7T pro. Peak Oneplus 🪦
In better times, this would at least get a class action.
Seriously are there any Android brands that do not suck and ship everywhere (not limited to the US/EU markets)??
google pixel with grapheneos maybe
pixel 10 is pretty repairable hardware wise, some prior ones have glued in battery
I believe thay all have shitty operating systems. But some of them have an aftermarket OS available. Pick your OS first, then look for a phone that can run it. Here are the ones I know of:
GrapheneOS
CalyxOS (on hiatus)
Crdriod
LineageOS
That means they were making money by people running their os.
If they spend the money on re-engineering their devices not to allow it, there was a cost advantage to selling your data.
Last I hear OnePlus was on the verge of collapse. Not because of this, but because of the mismanagement since carl left. It will probably be absorbed into oppo soon enough https://www.androidheadlines.com/exclusive-oneplus-collapse.
It’s not flashing a custom ROM. It is installing an OS of users choice. Enemy’s language shouldn’t be used if we want things to change
This is why “side load” is annoying to me. It’s installing. It is not special or different. They aren’t “blocking side loading” they’re “restricting what you can install.”
I’m 100% okay with how my Samsung Galaxy handles it: You access the Developer mode by pressing on the phone info screen in the settings for several seconds, and then there’s a switch that allows execution of random .apk files.
“Yes, do as I say.”
There was talk about Google changing this, but I’m not sure if that was something that would only affect Pixel phones or all of Android as an ecosystem. Well, to be specific, the change is to not let people run unsigned APKs at all and devs can only get them signed by giving their identification to Google.
I think they’re testing out different regions to see if they’ll get sued before trying to do this globally
Still custom as it’s not the default
Installing linux on your Dell that came with Windows isn’t “Installing a custom OS.”
Not IMO for phones but hey, it’s a free world ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You’ve been trained well.
Bruh.
What makes it “custom”? If you install Linux on a laptop that comes with Windows pre-installed, is Linux then a custom OS it’s not being a default? Why phones are any different? Calling it custom you play to the manufacturers pockets making it sound shady and unofficial giving them right to take the control from the customers devices. Soon we won’t own anything we buy.
I’ve never thought a custom ROM sounded shady.
To me it was always, “we only have vanilla or chocolate on the menu, but if you’re willing to risk bricking your phone, you can get cookies and cream.”
I picked cookies and cream.
On PC it is usually called “other”
To me it feels more like a full appliance as it’s not even intended primarily to install anything else.
But I can also see your point as a valid argument.Because for phones they kinda are custom. The smartphone hardware landscape is an absolute clusterfuck of proprietary blobs and closed source drivers and all sorts of shit that makes it so you need a lot of work to customize the base os to work on any particular device. ROMs have rather short lists of compatible phones, and each one of those had to have a build specifically developed for them. You can’t take, say, grapheneos and slap it on any phone you like.
The same applies to every pre-installed OS. They are all customized from AOSP, but only third-party operating systems are called such. That was my point there.
“OnePlus shoots own foot. Likely to blame consumers for it”
Many users were buying OpenPlus Pro smartphones solely because of the ability to unlock the bootloader and flash custom ROMs. People value freedom and customization. OpenPlus is shooting itself in the foot.
An increasingly small amount of their userbase cares about that now, its a mainstream device now
Oppo killed and ate OP a long time ago. They’ve just been wearing their skin like a suit up to this point, but their true nature is obvious at this point.
This is why I bought a pixel 6
This will never stop being funny
I also went with a pixel 6a with grafeneos because there are no other good options for me.
I would have preferred fairphone 6 + calyx but that is on hiatus and I couldn’t wait longer.
Sadly, at least in the North American market, Google’s Pixel phones are basically the last good phones you can reliably install your own ROM on.
What a sad world.
so it basically permanently “damages” the phone when you try to root it, seems like they are asking for a lawsuit at some point.
Wanna try suing Samsung before that?
I thought the difference there is that they were upfront about the feature in Knox and you can still install another OS, it just disables Pay and the Secure Notes part. Also it was something there from the start.
This feels markedly different as it’s retroactive and a full brick, which is much more severe and a bait and switch.
My last contact with it was on my Samsung S8. I was not aware of any “For your security we will monitor for OS changes” communication
Why would they start with the harder one? Samsung is much better funded, and therefore will be a much more difficult case.
And no, it does not matter that Samsung did it first.
Kinda does.
Well…So did Samsing with Samsung Knox
Knox just displays a message when you boot the device. You can still install a custom ROM. I’m typing this on a Samsung tablet running LineageOS.
Never said the fuse prevented the execution of a non-Samsung OS.
But the tripped efuse is permanent.
Oh well then… if the bastion of open and customer focused development did it
