Unless those on the attacking side (MAGA) decide they don’t want to murder more of us, I’m not sure we can. The first civil war was incredibly bloody and tensions between the sides never settled down fully. We are in this situation partly because there is no way to have a compromise with people that believe some of our society’s members aren’t human. The white supremacist view of slave owners and supporters of slavery never went away, it needs to be cut out from the root.
The question that should have been asked and answered when your first Civil War ended: you can’t. They have forfeit their right to live in America by being traitors to its constitution. Maybe after this second one, if the Left somehow wins, they’ll learn from that mistake and get rid of the remaining Right by whatever means are convenient.
The correct answer is to give the law teeth when it comes to abuse of authority, hate, racism, and all the other mechanisms that enable radical-right propaganda and power structures. They can keep on having garbage opinions about people “not like me”, but actually following through with punching down on others needs to be severely discouraged. The rest should follow once sane ideas are given the proper room to breathe.
They can keep on having garbage opinions about people “not like me”
Why? Nazi propaganda should be censored and severely punished, including real prison sentences for more serious offenses like actively producing or knowingly publishing it. Otherwise you end up with what we have now.
they say when something is forbidden, it makes it more desirable. it must have value of some sort if someone doesn’t want you to have it (i’m just explaining, not defending)
plus, if someone is open about their beliefs… you know who to keep an eye on. if someone only talks about it in private…
but again, still just explaining, not defending… banning it completely could make it harder to spread. idk. i’m tired and it baffles me that so many people actually agree with these terrible ideas and we live in a world where we even need to be having this discussion.
People’s opinions are measurably linked to the opinions of their (perceived) peer group. Conservatives were not born evil, they become evil after hearing evil bullshit from everyone and everything around them. That’s why “brainwashing” in the form of repeating the same lie over and over from various sources works so well in convincing people it’s the truth. Ban it, punish the liars, and the influence is reduced significantly. Invest in better education for the general population, specifically around critical thinking and media literacy (ideally something based on dialectical/historical materialism, which seems to be the best philosophical framework for understanding social realities) & historical education about dangers of fascism and capitalism, and the society gets a good anti-fascist vaccine for a couple generations at least.
How are we supposed to live side by side with these people?
Unless those on the attacking side (MAGA) decide they don’t want to murder more of us, I’m not sure we can. The first civil war was incredibly bloody and tensions between the sides never settled down fully. We are in this situation partly because there is no way to have a compromise with people that believe some of our society’s members aren’t human. The white supremacist view of slave owners and supporters of slavery never went away, it needs to be cut out from the root.
The question that should have been asked and answered when your first Civil War ended: you can’t. They have forfeit their right to live in America by being traitors to its constitution. Maybe after this second one, if the Left somehow wins, they’ll learn from that mistake and get rid of the remaining Right by whatever means are convenient.
What, like put them in concentration camps?
Re-education camps are what China uses. Maybe you can understand why they do that now. The alternative is to just kill them.
Traitors are executed
funny how we can find a way to hang an insurrectionist when he’s an abolitionist, but we can’t when he’s head of the imperial project
The correct answer is to give the law teeth when it comes to abuse of authority, hate, racism, and all the other mechanisms that enable radical-right propaganda and power structures. They can keep on having garbage opinions about people “not like me”, but actually following through with punching down on others needs to be severely discouraged. The rest should follow once sane ideas are given the proper room to breathe.
Why? Nazi propaganda should be censored and severely punished, including real prison sentences for more serious offenses like actively producing or knowingly publishing it. Otherwise you end up with what we have now.
they say when something is forbidden, it makes it more desirable. it must have value of some sort if someone doesn’t want you to have it (i’m just explaining, not defending)
plus, if someone is open about their beliefs… you know who to keep an eye on. if someone only talks about it in private…
but again, still just explaining, not defending… banning it completely could make it harder to spread. idk. i’m tired and it baffles me that so many people actually agree with these terrible ideas and we live in a world where we even need to be having this discussion.
People’s opinions are measurably linked to the opinions of their (perceived) peer group. Conservatives were not born evil, they become evil after hearing evil bullshit from everyone and everything around them. That’s why “brainwashing” in the form of repeating the same lie over and over from various sources works so well in convincing people it’s the truth. Ban it, punish the liars, and the influence is reduced significantly. Invest in better education for the general population, specifically around critical thinking and media literacy (ideally something based on dialectical/historical materialism, which seems to be the best philosophical framework for understanding social realities) & historical education about dangers of fascism and capitalism, and the society gets a good anti-fascist vaccine for a couple generations at least.
The law has teeth, in the protection of ruling class, not subjects. The subjects are being deathcamped.
@[email protected] what are we going to do with all this spam?
Details.
How does one even deal with that
.worldneed to loop downvotes for deleted accounts, and rescind them if the accounts are deleted.piefed already offered mitigations🧵