• Taldan@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    And then what?

    Trump wants ICE agents to get killed. Then he can declare martial law

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      22 hours ago

      They’re probably going to declare martial law anyways. What are you going to do then, listen to them? They want a civil war and societal breakdown. This is their end goal, its obvious. What they don’t realize is not every state is going to listen, and there is over half of the country who despises them. This is going to devolve into a civil war one way or another, and it makes me sad.

      There is no reason it needs to be this way, but you can only push people so far before they fight back.

      I have no idea what the spark is going to be, but its coming. It’s not normal for states to threaten to quit paying taxes, and for a state to activate the national guard to deal with federal goons.

      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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        16 hours ago

        I have no idea what the spark is going to be, but its coming.

        Historically there will be a false flag attack on some important military or government structure. Trump will blame liberals, despite it being obvious shortly afterwards that they bombed themselves intentionally.

        Thats why immediately after 9/11 there were conspiracys that “Bush planned 9/11”. Not saying I agree with that, but I understand where the idea comes from. It’s an old tactic that goes all the way back to at least Ghengis Khan.

        It’s even happened in American history. Blame the Maine on Spain.

        So, maybe expect a military base, or the statue of liberty to be bombed. And then trump will say he needs full military in the streets. He doesn’t, but he’ll say that, and he’ll get it.

        The only question is, as the Army marches through the streets, will they be goose stepping?

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          8 hours ago

          Or it could be the economy tanking,a particularly bad winter storm or other natural disaster, another epidemic/pandemic, a complicit billionaire caught on a hot mic doing something dumb with the world watching, another inflamed and unstable right winger takes another run at Trump for some unhinged reason.

          We’re in such a precarious position right now that we’re ready to burst at one of our many weak seams.

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          5 hours ago

          No they don’t. Protesting isn’t a civil war. You clearly haven’t actually experienced a civil war before. It’s not fun, and nobody wins.

    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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      18 hours ago

      yeah, then or at any other random event that they choose or manufacture

      it is inevitable

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      19 hours ago

      Then what? do it. Fuck it. What is the fucking plan? What’s the play after that like really? Let’s see what happens. Are we going to get paramilitary troops killing us in the street? Lol

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        17 hours ago

        ICE pretty much has all the employees it ever will. Even with the inflated budget they’re having trouble recruiting gestapo. They’re concentrating their efforts in Minneapolis because they don’t have the resources to do it anywhere bigger, much less everywhere at once.

        So they’re all-in trying to get violent kickback so they can justify the Insurrection Act, because that will allow them to deploy troops, which the courts keep blocking.

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        18 hours ago

        Marital law == dictatorship. As far as I have read, that’s the plan, then there will be no more elections and he can use the military for anything he can dream up. He’s very worried about the midterm elections. Many signs are predicting the end of the republican majority in both sides of congress.

        There is another way that does not involve violence, but it’ll require a coalition. Several states will need to band together and withhold funding.