Rant warning!
I mean I just quit a office call, the share screen ribbon wouldn’t disappear, opened task manager to kill it nope not found, finally had to select a “quit teams” option from start window. Note this is still windows 10.
Further the entire teams app is sloppy, when I start listing, the enter works but within the same message (when unintended) I have to ensure I click shift+enter to enter a new line. I can’t choose between enter and shift+enter.
A few questions now:
- why/how do these guys design a product this way
- Does it mean Microsoft can keep running any app which necessarily doesn’t appear on my task manager?


A long, long time ago, there was an online messaging tool called ICQ. You didnt even have callsigns in it, you had a randomly generated number you shared with your friends. You chatted. Had fun. Life was good.
Then there was AOL instant messenger. It largely replaced ICQ in the US. It added emoticons.
Then there was MSN Messenger. It tied into the MSN gaming zone(Before MS killed it to make Xbox Live. You could play games with your friends through it. You could do rudimentary video chats.
Then you had Skype(pre-MS. Better video, not tied to MS).
MS makes MSN Messenger into Lynx and adds it to office. Its not good.
Then you had Google Hangouts. Better chat, fun features, tied to your google account.
Then you had MS owned Skype as Skype for Business. Largely replaces Hangouts because Google enshittifies everything, not because it is good.
You also have former Vancouver startup Slack. Its fantastic. Until Salesforce buys it.
Now we have the bastard officespring of Skype for Business: MS Teams.
Lync, not Lynx.
And technically Lync got birthed from the corpse of Office Communicator, not MSN messenger.
Fair, it was over a decade ago that I used it.
Google meet is the only thing I have used that doesn’t need a desktop program, I used it over lockdown and got the in-laws to join (both very not technical).
I can’t say much for chat, as it was never any good. We used slack for text chat, but that has gone down hill with Salesforce.
Meet was so bad compared to hangouts it drove people to MS Teams
Meet has been the only video/call app I’ve never had any issues with. If it wasn’t owned by Google it’d be great.
When the team I was working with at the time used it, it constantly dropped calls, some people couldn’t share their screen sometimes, randomly mics would stop working, it was a bad experience.