No, it’s clearly not “brown people from over there”. What you are describing is assimilation into your culture. That requires that the people immigrating want to assimilate and join “you”. Also, a subset of sickos within “Western” culture being pedos is not the same as a society that believes child marriage is normal (or preferable).
Fundamentalist Christianity (any denomination or offshoot) is generally a “white people” culture and is also fundamentally incompatible with Western liberal society just as much as Islam is or Hindu caste is etc, so no, it is not just a “brown people” thing. White Christians don’t need to keep practicing things that harm kids, but it is part of their culture so they still do. And they influence or attempt to set the law to conform to their cultural beliefs. That is the concern with non-assimilation and mass immigration of any kind, anywhere.
The reason all the problems you describe exist, in this comment and others, is because people in country Y are scared of people in country X changing things. It’s entirely conservatism and racism, either malignant or benign. All the concerns you bring up are products of governments not making their people’s needs met.
I refuse to believe that because one culture does bad things that it’s not welcome, we will never solve all the problems in our OWN fucking culture that it makes me wonder why a bunch of people looking for a new home are so much worse of an issue, the only way it would make sense is if you believed our ability to manage and enforce liberty and equality and personal rights is a finite resource and you can only spend it on your immediate surroundings. Which again, you may be inclined to say that’s exactly the case, but again that’s a product of societal influence by the people managing the lines, we can easily expand our working systems to include more people. (Which we don’t do even in our own island culture because it would mean taking away sex-slave money from wealthy elites.) I would be more charitable to this argument if you believed that people broadly can’t be managed and we need to reduce populations. (something that happens anyway when you meet people’s needs, look at modern birthrates as quality of life increases.)
Christianity is waning. Religion is waning. Quality of life is increasing. It feels distant right now but there are a LOT of graphs and studies that will put you squarely on an incline despite a few “dips” here and there. That incline is coming from globalizing our cultures, our information and our beliefs so different people are less alien and foreign and we start depending one each other.
There was a time when people were so segregated that black men and women and kids had to use separate water fountains. The people who designed that segregation said “We respect them as humans, but our cultures will never mesh, they are too different.”
Fuck ALL of that. At some point there will be homogeny whether you like it or not, it WILL happen, we will have a whole new slew of issues to deal with a larger, more integrated population, and that will be a far better fight than the ones we’re having now.
No, it’s clearly not “brown people from over there”. What you are describing is assimilation into your culture. That requires that the people immigrating want to assimilate and join “you”. Also, a subset of sickos within “Western” culture being pedos is not the same as a society that believes child marriage is normal (or preferable).
Fundamentalist Christianity (any denomination or offshoot) is generally a “white people” culture and is also fundamentally incompatible with Western liberal society just as much as Islam is or Hindu caste is etc, so no, it is not just a “brown people” thing. White Christians don’t need to keep practicing things that harm kids, but it is part of their culture so they still do. And they influence or attempt to set the law to conform to their cultural beliefs. That is the concern with non-assimilation and mass immigration of any kind, anywhere.
The reason all the problems you describe exist, in this comment and others, is because people in country Y are scared of people in country X changing things. It’s entirely conservatism and racism, either malignant or benign. All the concerns you bring up are products of governments not making their people’s needs met.
I refuse to believe that because one culture does bad things that it’s not welcome, we will never solve all the problems in our OWN fucking culture that it makes me wonder why a bunch of people looking for a new home are so much worse of an issue, the only way it would make sense is if you believed our ability to manage and enforce liberty and equality and personal rights is a finite resource and you can only spend it on your immediate surroundings. Which again, you may be inclined to say that’s exactly the case, but again that’s a product of societal influence by the people managing the lines, we can easily expand our working systems to include more people. (Which we don’t do even in our own island culture because it would mean taking away sex-slave money from wealthy elites.) I would be more charitable to this argument if you believed that people broadly can’t be managed and we need to reduce populations. (something that happens anyway when you meet people’s needs, look at modern birthrates as quality of life increases.)
Christianity is waning. Religion is waning. Quality of life is increasing. It feels distant right now but there are a LOT of graphs and studies that will put you squarely on an incline despite a few “dips” here and there. That incline is coming from globalizing our cultures, our information and our beliefs so different people are less alien and foreign and we start depending one each other.
There was a time when people were so segregated that black men and women and kids had to use separate water fountains. The people who designed that segregation said “We respect them as humans, but our cultures will never mesh, they are too different.”
Fuck ALL of that. At some point there will be homogeny whether you like it or not, it WILL happen, we will have a whole new slew of issues to deal with a larger, more integrated population, and that will be a far better fight than the ones we’re having now.