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Sen. Bernie Sanders also demanded āfundamental reformsā to Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Protection, saying they are āterrorizingā US communities.
US Sen. Bernie Sanders on Wednesday demanded the removal of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Millerāa key architect of Donald Trumpās violent mass deportation campaignāas well as concrete reforms in exchange for any new funding for Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
In remarks on the Senate floor, Sanders (I-Vt.) called ICE a ādomestic military forceā that is āterrorizingā communities across the country. The senator pointed specifically to the agencyās ongoing activities in Minnesota and Maine, where officers have committed horrificāand deadlyāabuses.
Sanders said that ānot another penny should be givenā to ICE or Customs and Border Protection (CBP) āunless there are fundamental reforms in how those agencies functionāand until there is new leadership at the Department of Homeland Security and among those who run our immigration policy.ā The senator has proposed repealing a $75 billion ICE funding boost that the GOP approved last summer, an end to warrantless arrests, the unmasking of ICE and CBP agents, and more.
God, you donāt read, do you. How do you intend to abolish ICE in this case. Itās purely about a bill thatās already passed the house. Heās trying to prevent it from passing the senate. Abolition is not an option in this case. That requires a new bill. The only thing that can be done in this case is to stop a funding bill passing or passing it. Thereās no third option.
No. My problem is that I want power to be used when we have it. I donāt think we should give up power just to sound strong to idiots on the internet. Sanders taking an idiological stance that the senate doesnāt support sounds cool to internet communists, but it doesnāt actually get anything done except for handing over power to the Fascists.
Your stupid community that insists we get nothing done because it isnāt perfect are annoying as hell. You arenāt as smart as you believe. The leftists who have actually accomplished things did so by working with people they didnāt agree with completely. You take what you can get when you can get it. You donāt throw it away because you want something better.
Sanders doesnāt have the power to abolish ICE (at least, at this moment). He does have the power to maybe have this bill not pass. Even that is unlikely though. It sure as hell wonāt happen if he takes the stance you want, and then ICE gets even more funding. Is that what you want?
Iām reading mate. Youāre not. I already said the problem is that you still think liberal democracy is functioning. It is not. Pretending that it is is why you canāt understand my perspective.
I want you to just pretend for a moment that you have accepted that there is no democracy at the federal level. Itās done.
Then, think of the perspective Iāve given you. What is our remaining option? State government.
The only meaningful thing Sanders can do is accept that the federal government has been taken over by fascist and use his platform to encourage state governments to take a stand and organize a resistance to the fascist federal government. One way of doing that is abolishing ICE in the states.
Heās not doing that. If he was, people like you would not be fooled into thinking that any legislative actions in the federal government will matter. They donāt. And youāre arguing for why they still do. Do you get that?
Stop explaining the political maneuvering. It makes you look silly. I get what youāre talking about. I just disagree with you on a fundamental level. The legislative branch of the federal government has no power. Sanders should be shouting this and telling state governments to take action to prepare. Instead, heās pretending itās still functioning.
You can disagree with me on whether it still has power or not. But youāre not. Youāre just talking about political maneuvering that I am fundamentally saying DOES NOT MATTER. Do you get my perspective?