It harms much more than just trans people. Firstly transphobes think even the slightest form of gender-noncomformity is transgenderism, secondly many of those TERF orgs also oppose other things (wondering if Collective Shout got any money from her, but probably she already blames porn for trans people).
Forgive me if I’ve been mislead, but from what I understand “transgenderism” is a term used by transphobes to diminish a legitimate phenomenon, implying it is a belief or fad.
Still upvoted for contributing to the discussion and for supporting an alien in his search for the universe’s best cup of coffee.
I know, that’s why I used that word in that context. They don’t care, they just see someone not extremely masculine or feminine, then think they must be trans. I got accused of “formerly having ‘rapid onset gender dysphoria’”, because I used to have long hair for metal reasons.
I always hear “transgender ideology” from transphobes, to make it more of a thought exercise and fad than a physical state of being. “Transgenderism” is a word I’ve been familiar with for decades but it may have been coopted or is being eschewed now, not sure.
as a transfem academic who enjoyed HPMoR, I dislike JKR’s Harry Potter series because it’s poorly written and is not critical enough of the ethical problems it contains
Not trying to hate on Harry Potter fans, but the characters just seem so one dimensional to me. It’s a neat setting which really speaks to the cozy part of my brain, but I never noticed enough depth in it to get why it has so many fans.
I mean, both worlds are rotten to the core, it’s just that HPMoR is properly critical of the problems therein. Only one of the two worlds has the main character working hard to dismantle the institutional racism he was presented with.
outside of nostalgia which is hard to quantify what is the appeal compared to thousands of better series in the genre? Its not just written by a bigoted monster who uses her platform for harming others its filled with lackluster world building and empty characters.
I’ve never understood this argument. I mean, don’t get me wrong, I’m not spending another penny on this franchise for the foreseeable future, but… I’m still a fan of the books. I’ve read my copies so often most of them are held together with duct tape and chewing gum. I have my old dvds and I give them a watch here and there. Probably gonna watch them with my kid once he’s old enough.
I’m a fan of Harry Potter. Its not about if a different series is better or worse. And the books aren’t bad, but that was never the issue. No one who is really a fan of something is gonna transfer their love for that thing to a “better” version that easily.
What do those other series not have? They’re not Harry Potter. They’re a different thing. And it doesn’t have to be nostalgia for you to like a thing. And if you can replace it that easily, you’re not much of a fan. Which is fine! Everyone has their own tastes… But think about something you actually are a fan of. There’s no replacement for it.
Hope this didn’t come off too strong, I’m not mad or anything, but its really an argument that I don’t understand when people make. There are so many good arguments for voting with your wallet on this thing, but this doesn’t seem to be one of them.
As much as the author sucks, I enjoy the series too much to throw it away :/
There are so many other series which are a lot better. You really don’t need this one.
YAaaarrr, we be enjoying content from slimey, bilge-bucket creators without spending a single doubloon on their barnacle-covered arses. 🏴☠️
pirate the media and dont give it exposure then :) any dollar given to that franchise is a dollar spent to harm trans people
It harms much more than just trans people. Firstly transphobes think even the slightest form of gender-noncomformity is transgenderism, secondly many of those TERF orgs also oppose other things (wondering if Collective Shout got any money from her, but probably she already blames porn for trans people).
Forgive me if I’ve been mislead, but from what I understand “transgenderism” is a term used by transphobes to diminish a legitimate phenomenon, implying it is a belief or fad.
Still upvoted for contributing to the discussion and for supporting an alien in his search for the universe’s best cup of coffee.
I know, that’s why I used that word in that context. They don’t care, they just see someone not extremely masculine or feminine, then think they must be trans. I got accused of “formerly having ‘rapid onset gender dysphoria’”, because I used to have long hair for metal reasons.
Speaking from experience as well, ain’t nothing “rapid onset” about cultivating a properly metal head of hair.
I do appreciate the clarification though!
I always hear “transgender ideology” from transphobes, to make it more of a thought exercise and fad than a physical state of being. “Transgenderism” is a word I’ve been familiar with for decades but it may have been coopted or is being eschewed now, not sure.
I consume it purely through fanfiction and AO3.
as a transfem academic who enjoyed HPMoR, I dislike JKR’s Harry Potter series because it’s poorly written and is not critical enough of the ethical problems it contains
Not trying to hate on Harry Potter fans, but the characters just seem so one dimensional to me. It’s a neat setting which really speaks to the cozy part of my brain, but I never noticed enough depth in it to get why it has so many fans.
It isn’t critical of its ethical problems at all. It mostly doesn’t even acknowledge them.
did you read HP: methods of rationality? the one where Harry Potter beheads Lucius Malfoy because of ethical motivations?
Oh you mean the fascistic nightmare world where it turns out the only problem is bad actors, not the fact that it’s systemically rotten to the core?
I mean, both worlds are rotten to the core, it’s just that HPMoR is properly critical of the problems therein. Only one of the two worlds has the main character working hard to dismantle the institutional racism he was presented with.
Oh fuck me, sorry I read that as MMO. No, methods of rationality was good.
outside of nostalgia which is hard to quantify what is the appeal compared to thousands of better series in the genre? Its not just written by a bigoted monster who uses her platform for harming others its filled with lackluster world building and empty characters.
I’ve never understood this argument. I mean, don’t get me wrong, I’m not spending another penny on this franchise for the foreseeable future, but… I’m still a fan of the books. I’ve read my copies so often most of them are held together with duct tape and chewing gum. I have my old dvds and I give them a watch here and there. Probably gonna watch them with my kid once he’s old enough.
I’m a fan of Harry Potter. Its not about if a different series is better or worse. And the books aren’t bad, but that was never the issue. No one who is really a fan of something is gonna transfer their love for that thing to a “better” version that easily.
What do those other series not have? They’re not Harry Potter. They’re a different thing. And it doesn’t have to be nostalgia for you to like a thing. And if you can replace it that easily, you’re not much of a fan. Which is fine! Everyone has their own tastes… But think about something you actually are a fan of. There’s no replacement for it.
Hope this didn’t come off too strong, I’m not mad or anything, but its really an argument that I don’t understand when people make. There are so many good arguments for voting with your wallet on this thing, but this doesn’t seem to be one of them.
Now we’re talking!
I’m first:
Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser, by Fritz Leiber.
Very 1980-ish fantasy for adults.
Your turn!
Can I come over and poke you with a pitchfork? I know it’d be painful, but I feel like I’d really enjoy it.
Do you have any trans people in your life?
Are you assuming that there aren’t trans people that like Harry Potter? Do YOU have any trans people in your life?
I didn’t assume anything, I just asked a question.
I do have a handful of trans people in my life, yes.
Yes I do too. To answer your question
Unless you’re an alt, I wasn’t originally asking you. I don’t know your stance on the Harry Potter IP.
Nope no alt. Didn’t mean to come in hot. Like we all can agree JK Rowling can burn in hell alternating from hot oil to hot coal. Right!?
Whenever you spend any money on anything Harry Potter related, offset it by giving at least that much to a charity for LGBTQ+.
MFers will invent carbon credits before reading a different book