They all are waiting on someone to fix it. They wont do anything until it comes to their door. By then it will be way too late for most of us.
Invite folks to join you at a protest, or canvassing, or almost anything else that is more than zero. A big chunk of the population can be hooked on action if somebody they know asks.
I am the token white guy where I work and none of my coworkers want to talk about it. They don’t want to protest. They think they are gonna be left alone. They are just one ICE encounter away from finding out but until then they will not step outside their bubble.
There’s 3 states. You could probably subdivide it further, but the basics are -
- Fuck yeah, make kings and inflict suffering
- can’t be bothered to deal with it for whatever reason
- How the hell can we stop the crazy train?
For me it’s at work where we don’t acknowledge what’s really happening and it is starting to drive me a little mad.
I work in a very diverse workforce, but for a very old fashioned company, and politics are not spoken of.
But I am surrounded by immigrants and people who are probably here on work visas, or are just dark skinned, and I have to think they are living with a constant background fear that is steadily rising but they never talk about it and I never say anything. I have a whole cycle of shame with it.
Be the change you want to see then?
I’m in Canada but also a very diverse group of people around me at all times. I make it very clear with everyone that politics aside, I have all their backs regardless of race, colour or creed. Differences are what makes us stronger not weaker and anyone who is afraid of differences shows themselves as weak.
Work is already a compartmentalized space for many people. Some places, by rote, have no politics or religion on their daily, invisible walls in existence for decades before Trump in power was even a thought. To have that in the workplace is normal. Mileage varies, no doubt, there is no 100% with people.
Sometimes you run into That Person who breaks the rules and makes the entire room break eye contact, bow head, and disengage to focus on work. There’s a reason most people don’t talk to them.
Where this is going to resonate most, now, is for people who do most of their in person talking to others at their job. For people who only encounter non white people at their job.
For me, work is the reprieve zone from it all. I have a job to do, my focus is on it. At least until we too have Immigration & Customs Enforcement in our halls.
Again, compartmentalization. Not just to do a better, more focused job (how much this matters also depends on what the job is, to you) but to engage in a mental moment of reprieve from thinking about our fallen republic.
I just can’t be friends with people who don’t seriously want every republican drown.
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Fuck off with your chatbot
What’s the point of bots in here commenting?
What is this generic ass nothing of a comment. How does this help anyone?
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Like no shit. Why do you think it was posted?
Looks like someone testing AI.
Everything happening right now is normal for the US, the only difference is 2 white people got killed this time so people started paying attention. The ones protesting are protesting Trump’s ICE when they should be protesting ICE.
Everything? Really? That’s bold. I’ve been around for a while, and I personally can’t remember a time when 3000 armed, masked, untrained and unaccountable thugs were let loose by the federal government on individual cities to openly terrorize, incite, and murder the general population.
Previously, ICE was only set loose to terrorize, incite, and murder the brown population. So yeah, this is pretty much business as usual.
It can’t be more clear that he’s trying to normalize this. His message is that we shouldn’t do anything and just let happen because we didn’t do anything before this.
But really he’s just desperate that we don’t fight back. He wants Russia and China to win through Trump decimating the US.
I think it’s more likely that they are trying to break through the walls of capitalist propaganda and make people realize that the USA has always been fascist-oriented and that getting rid of this latest symptom (Trump) will not fix that. After all, fascism is imperialism turned inward. We desperately need a wholesale movement away from capitalism and towards socialism to actually ensure that fascism cannot rise again.
Pretty standard .ml take.
Kent State
1968 in general
So a thing from almost 60 years ago? That was a tragedy and eventually led to a course correction on Vietnam. Hardly an example of “business as usual”
How about the Iraq war, the Afghanistan war, Syria, Yemen, Palestine, Sudan, Myanmar, or any of the other countless places where US capitalism has incited genocide, murder, rape, and torture. Or is it only fascism when it happens inside our borders to white people?
It sounded like you wanted a concrete example within living memory
I’m well over 60.
Typical .ml tankie bullshit take.
Does America have sordid events in her history? Yes.
But to take a “same shit, different day” stance isn’t just myopic, it assists the present admin by attempting to place the actions of the day in the “normal” zone.
The white people part breaks the inertia, the dismissiveness, the head in the sand aspect OP is referring to.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement are just out doing immigration and customs enforcement things, right? Right up until they shoot two white people in the head.
We’re talking broad strokes perception management here. Most of the public doesn’t have time, inclination is separate, to dig in like the people of Lemmy or the still earnest corners of Reddit, or the journalist/HCR/Robert Reich essay writing corner of Substack.
They vaguely know Immigration & Customs Enforcement are out deporting people. A layer deeper they might know it’s harassment of immigrants and that protestors are protesting. Let’s be real about what “immigrants” means to most Americans: brown people, mainly in the form of Mexicans and Haitians, are being rounded up and deported. But, for the most part, agree or disagree with immigration policy, they’re thinking Immigration & Customs Enforcement is doing that, what their name says.
Right up until someone clearly not fitting the immigrant profile is BAM shot in the head.
Why not Porter? I’m not going to try to argue that color doesn’t matter here. It does. But unlike Floyd, Porter is missing the fundamental piece that creates action like back in 2020: video. Good and Pretti had video. It’s why they target journalists first with the gas now. Video presence matters.
As for the two white people. The world is always more dismissive of women, we are forever placed in the “it’s her fault” zone, but even so. Pretti is unique because he’s also making conservative heads spin around. 2A, VA, a trade adjacent profession, a most trusted profession, an helping/service profession, and he’s a white man, the pinnacle of MAGA.
With Pretti, it’s a coffin nail on the idea that Immigration & Customs Enforcement is doing immigration and customs enforcement things. Pretti completely changes the narrative, for most.
This is just so dismissive of the ugly history behind ICE that I’m actually slightly disgusted.
You’re wrong about this. It’s a reasonable position during the first Trump presidency, but under this one it is not “equal opportunity oppression”. White people of privilege being murdered in the streets by cops isn’t the new equality… It’s the new ceiling. It doesn’t mean everyone else has new company in the oppression floor, it means everyone now at the bottom will be shoved into darker depths than some might imagine.
The class war is no longer trying to hide.
There’s the top 10% and their brown shirts. And there’s everyone else, who should be toeing the line and at their jobs.
Exactly. AmeriKKKa has been a shithole for a long long while now. Hope they all rot.
You literally have emails showing it’s every fucking country doing this shit with each other because the rich hate you. Don’t be an idiot.
You realize that all working class folks, internationally, are your peers? And you just spat on ~300 million people, many of whom are suffering and many if not most of whom didn’t vote for that suffering. Have some compassion and solidarity for fucks sake. Did you wish the same thing on Greek people when their economy collapsed?
The Greeks didn’t cause death and misery to every country on the globe across their much, much older history. Compared to a nation founded on racism, death, and greed, they’re literal saints.
Oh shit, it’s one of those “anti-imperialist” takes again where they only consider the US and ignore everyone else’s imperialism. Big yawn. You realize this is 100% parroting Russian propaganda invented in the Soviet days, right? Go ask the Eastern bloc countries if they weren’t imperialist. Yes, America bad but don’t make it your whole personality 🙄
Will you name me a first world nation that wasn’t built on 2 out of 3 of those things? Are your politicians and billionaires also saints? Why are you going on like this after I brought up compassion and solidarity for other people in your socioeconomic class despite their nation of origin? Am I a greedy racist killer because my great great whatever grandfather had no option but to leave where he was for whatever reason (famine, war, oppression)?
I am really interested in your answers to these questions, because they are meant to be collaborative, despite what seems like your insistence to be antagonistic.
What is wrong with people who say shit like this?
Intentionally sowing discord?
