You don’t like his tone, but it’s very important those two people went to prison. Should more people be in prison? Absolutely.
We’re in a worse situation than that now. There was some rule of law when those two went to prison. They likely wouldn’t go today. They weren’t just some “faces”; they were the primary people responsible for the crimes.
The murderers of Renee Good and Alex Pretti aren’t in jail.
And just like Epstein, she’s getting all kinds of special treatments. Not nearly as egregious as Epstein got, but there’s still way too much preferential handling of her food and accomodations.
But awesome, you’re up to 2 people charged in a massive conspiracy to rape children. Cool cool cool cool cool.
I am sure the only reason Maxwell hasn’t russuicided like epstein is she has compromising information that would be released on her death. Epstein probably had that too until the president and his pals talked to Israeli intelligence and cut a deal with them. Maxwell likely has her own people, as if this is some Robert Ludlum novel.
So you’d agree then that no single person that really matters has been prosecuted then? Because the OP was slightly mistaken that no single person was charged. But hey, they got the 2 faces and none of the people facilitating or buying the services for the rich and powerful, so the rape gang can keep on keeping on.
No I think it’s very important that Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, two child sex traffickers, former also a child sexual abuser, were convicted and imprisoned. They were not the “two faces”, they were facilitating (and in Epstein’s case, partaking in) the illegal, immoral acts we’re talking about.
You don’t know if the rape gang carried on. You’ve got no evidence for it. That doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, but it’s just wrong to say without evidence.
Saying it contributes to a world where it’s normal to just accuse people of shit. It doesn’t only blow onto the wealthy and the powerful who you think are bad - the giant paedophile conspiracy theory which you’re subscribing to helped elect Trump. It never mattered that Trump was mentioned in the files - it never mattered what was true because people like the OP, people like you, chat a load of shit and think it’s ok. You can do better.
That is why I care about it. So no, I didn’t got’em, because you don’t get it.
You don’t know if the rape gang carried on. You’ve got no evidence for it. That doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, but it’s just wrong to say without evidence.
Respectfully, this is terminally naive. While you’re correct we have no evidence of it continuing, we DO have evidence that there was a raid in his property and none of the blackmail material we’ve heard about from multiple people over many years, including video evidence, was found and there have been 0 additional convictions related to it so far after over 6 years.
So there are only a few options:
these two were the only ones involved in a massive child rape gang, and no additional evidence was found
these weren’t the only 2 involved, but no evidence was found and the gang just disbanded
2a) same as 2, but they didn’t disband and are continuing raping children
these weren’t the only two involved, and evidence was found but not actioned.
Anything past 3 is complicity, and the only two options I can see for the rape gang not continuing are only likely if you know absolutely nothing about how people operate.
And given that Jeff’s buddy is the goddamned president and has already shown he’s not afraid to lean on the justice department, along with Epstein being allowed to operate as an open secret for DECADES, anything short of proof it was stopped is effectively proof it hasn’t.
When the pedo elite get to rape kids with everyone turning a blind eye, there is no good faith argument without evidence that it is not still going on. And I don’t care what side you’re on, until we have evidence they were stopped, we CANNOT assume they have. In this situation, you have to assume malice given the history of it already.
And I don’t care what side you’re on, until we have evidence they were stopped, we CANNOT assume they have.
Absolutely. Not saying “it’s still happening” doesn’t mean believing it has stopped.
While you’re correct we have no evidence of it continuing, we DO have evidence that there was a raid in his property and none of the blackmail material we’ve heard about from multiple people over many years, including video evidence
But loads of material that fits the description of “blackmail material” has now been released. So far it has not been anything that could convict anyone - but it has undoubtedly been incriminating. So there’s an obvious possibility that material was found but it did not amount to usable evidence.
This is the second most autistic conversation I’ve had today. Please allow me to rephrase the conversation till now.
" No one was arrested"
" One person was arrested"
“ONLY one person was arrested because they’re specifically NOT arresting anybody else. This is what we’re complaining about”
" So you agree one person was arrested?"
Like yes, we agree with you about the unimportant point that a nonzero amount of people were arrested, which specifically was NOT what OP meant, ya silly literalist.
I think it’s important to be truthful, and I also think it’s important that Epstein and Maxwell were both sent to jail.
And I think it’s even more important to push back against statements that are made not for their truth but just for their vibes, and the idea that calling out their lack of truth is somehow an opposition to the vibe. You can just say something true that expresses your feelings adequately, and it doesn’t contribute to an environment where truth doesn’t matter.
See, that’s where I disagree. I think we should take that time that we’re using to self-police people on our side and their language, and then spend that time beating the shit out of Nazis. Verbally, of course.
Because he has blackmail on the president, not because he was a child trafficker. He got like a could weeks of community service for that one… By the guy who later became a member of PEDOnald’s cabinet
Uh, didn’t Epstein go to jail
Well yeah. He was the fall guy, and it’s WAY easier to suicide someone when they’re inside your prison.
You don’t like his tone, but it’s very important those two people went to prison. Should more people be in prison? Absolutely.
We’re in a worse situation than that now. There was some rule of law when those two went to prison. They likely wouldn’t go today. They weren’t just some “faces”; they were the primary people responsible for the crimes.
The murderers of Renee Good and Alex Pretti aren’t in jail.
So, “yes a single person”. Also Ghislaine was prosecuted. Glad we’re on the same page there.
And just like Epstein, she’s getting all kinds of special treatments. Not nearly as egregious as Epstein got, but there’s still way too much preferential handling of her food and accomodations.
But awesome, you’re up to 2 people charged in a massive conspiracy to rape children. Cool cool cool cool cool.
I am sure the only reason Maxwell hasn’t russuicided like epstein is she has compromising information that would be released on her death. Epstein probably had that too until the president and his pals talked to Israeli intelligence and cut a deal with them. Maxwell likely has her own people, as if this is some Robert Ludlum novel.
Great, glad we’re on the same page.
So you’d agree then that no single person that really matters has been prosecuted then? Because the OP was slightly mistaken that no single person was charged. But hey, they got the 2 faces and none of the people facilitating or buying the services for the rich and powerful, so the rape gang can keep on keeping on.
But yeah, you got’em!
No I think it’s very important that Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, two child sex traffickers, former also a child sexual abuser, were convicted and imprisoned. They were not the “two faces”, they were facilitating (and in Epstein’s case, partaking in) the illegal, immoral acts we’re talking about.
You don’t know if the rape gang carried on. You’ve got no evidence for it. That doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, but it’s just wrong to say without evidence.
Saying it contributes to a world where it’s normal to just accuse people of shit. It doesn’t only blow onto the wealthy and the powerful who you think are bad - the giant paedophile conspiracy theory which you’re subscribing to helped elect Trump. It never mattered that Trump was mentioned in the files - it never mattered what was true because people like the OP, people like you, chat a load of shit and think it’s ok. You can do better.
That is why I care about it. So no, I didn’t got’em, because you don’t get it.
Respectfully, this is terminally naive. While you’re correct we have no evidence of it continuing, we DO have evidence that there was a raid in his property and none of the blackmail material we’ve heard about from multiple people over many years, including video evidence, was found and there have been 0 additional convictions related to it so far after over 6 years.
So there are only a few options:
these two were the only ones involved in a massive child rape gang, and no additional evidence was found
these weren’t the only 2 involved, but no evidence was found and the gang just disbanded
2a) same as 2, but they didn’t disband and are continuing raping children
Anything past 3 is complicity, and the only two options I can see for the rape gang not continuing are only likely if you know absolutely nothing about how people operate.
And given that Jeff’s buddy is the goddamned president and has already shown he’s not afraid to lean on the justice department, along with Epstein being allowed to operate as an open secret for DECADES, anything short of proof it was stopped is effectively proof it hasn’t.
When the pedo elite get to rape kids with everyone turning a blind eye, there is no good faith argument without evidence that it is not still going on. And I don’t care what side you’re on, until we have evidence they were stopped, we CANNOT assume they have. In this situation, you have to assume malice given the history of it already.
Absolutely. Not saying “it’s still happening” doesn’t mean believing it has stopped.
But loads of material that fits the description of “blackmail material” has now been released. So far it has not been anything that could convict anyone - but it has undoubtedly been incriminating. So there’s an obvious possibility that material was found but it did not amount to usable evidence.
This is the second most autistic conversation I’ve had today. Please allow me to rephrase the conversation till now.
" No one was arrested"
" One person was arrested"
“ONLY one person was arrested because they’re specifically NOT arresting anybody else. This is what we’re complaining about”
" So you agree one person was arrested?"
Like yes, we agree with you about the unimportant point that a nonzero amount of people were arrested, which specifically was NOT what OP meant, ya silly literalist.
I think it’s important to be truthful, and I also think it’s important that Epstein and Maxwell were both sent to jail.
And I think it’s even more important to push back against statements that are made not for their truth but just for their vibes, and the idea that calling out their lack of truth is somehow an opposition to the vibe. You can just say something true that expresses your feelings adequately, and it doesn’t contribute to an environment where truth doesn’t matter.
See, that’s where I disagree. I think we should take that time that we’re using to self-police people on our side and their language, and then spend that time beating the shit out of Nazis. Verbally, of course.
Because he has blackmail on the president, not because he was a child trafficker. He got like a could weeks of community service for that one… By the guy who later became a member of PEDOnald’s cabinet