• muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
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    At this point, I can only imagine it’s out of spite. The regime wants violence, and we are certainly capable of it. But denying them the response they are begging for seems to really blue ball them.

    We’re going to die probably. But on our terms, not theirs.

  • DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
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    Dictators use instigators to escalate the situation and remove personal freedoms. People are being smart and not falling for instigators, all history books shows how they use infiltrataded people to cause the authoritarian regime to attack protester. So I think people are being smart and they afraid from midterms and trying everything to see if they can have a provocateur before the midterms.

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    6 hours ago

    In France, the worst they will likely be met with is water cannons, tear gas, and potentially rubber bullets/beanbag rounds.

    In America, it’s more likely to be automatic assault rifles.

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    I don’t understand this either. A few protests that aren’t even in the news after a single day!?

    You want to bet, it won’t be any different if trump says there was too much fraud and cancels the midterm results? A week of protests and outrage, but by then he will already do something else outraging to talk about. Americans are neutered.

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      A few protests that aren’t even in the news

      Depending on how much you rely on main steam (especially legacy) news, you’re highly unlikely to see one protester on the news for every ten thousand on the street.

      Turns out that the billionaires and hectomillionaires that own all of the biggest media outlets don’t like to draw attention to people criticizing their golf buddies when they don’t have to.

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      I’m not saying we shouldn’t do more, but there are plenty of ongoing protests. Just because you don’t see them in the news everyday didn’t mean they aren’t happening. Minneapolis, Portland, LA, DC and more all have protests that have been more or less ongoing since the shit hit the fan in their respective areas. The difference between this country and Franve can’t be understated im terms of geographic size and population density. It is MUCH harder to sustain protests when we’re all so spread out compared to am entire country the size of Texas.

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      There’s always the excuse that they can’t take one single day off from work because they’d lose healthcare coverage yada yada. I used to think it was bullshit, that they’re just lazy.

      But… remember during covid, when a ton of people became unemployed? Suddenly they were protesting all over the place. Made me reconsider. I think the lack of social security really has them by the balls.

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        Yup, and considering everything that’s coming to light right now, it’s hard to say that it isn’t by design.

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        I mean, yes obviously it does. I don’t begrudge anyone for being unable to comprehend life without all the basic safety nets civilized countries offer, but we can already barely afford food and rent. Oh got some weird medical thing that’s concerning? Well I hope it’s not cancer, buy a bunch of Tylenol and just hope it goes away. Doctor too expensive.

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        8 hours ago

        I read many -if not most- live paycheck to paycheck. If so, the problem might go way deeper than that.

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          By the “official” numbers, at least 1 out of 3 Americans live paycheck to paycheck.

          At least

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              Yeah, and are you going to tell me that the households on the bottom end of the income spectrum don’t have on average more people than the rich fucks?

              ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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        Yes, I agree. The system neutered them, I’m sure otherwise they are normal people. But the education they have. The price they gave to pay for it, theb guarded two party system where officias are bought by the rich, the bought media, the lack of healthcare and it’s price, …

        This has produced the perfect cattle. The American aristocracy have made the perfect system, where everyone thinks they are free and are too uneducated, busy and sick to think about how much they are exploited.

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          Also a fully militarized police force in all 50 states some which rival the power of nations

          The NYPD has over 30,000 cops, some 10k+ support staff and similar firepower to the active militaries of some European countries, and that’s just 1 city. Also the us military sells surplus and “necessary” equipment directly to police departments

          There are also 50 separate states and each of those states has a rural/urban divide covering over nearly 3000 miles across of diverse geography without including Alaska or any of the islands.

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            Honestly the police are the real problem. They’re never part of the local community in any real sense, they’ve been too brainwashed into an us vs them mentality.

            Which means that every single American is effectively living in ‘occupied’ territory and they can’t even depend on their communities banding together to fend off attacks. They’ll simply be stabbed in the back by their own cop neighbors.

            In a sane country, local police would’ve majorly curbed ICE’s activities simply because they were foreign agents messing around in ‘their’ city. Instead we’ve seen time and time again that when it matters, police will always side with our oppressors regardless of the legality or morality of it.

            Which is why it seems so hopeless to many of us. How can we fight an entire government, military AND every single cop all at once?

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              Yeah, many people do not realize what we are up against. There is a GIANT imbalance of violent power. Any violent resistance would be lone wolves, or small groups that may not be able to coordinate. Most people who give a fuck about everyone’s future will be shot, blown up, or jailed. Everyone else will feel bad, yet go along to get along. They will value their family’s comfort above everyone else’s. They probably won’t consider past grandchildren. They will consider their time overlapping their children’s and grandchildren’s lives, but no further. Their foresight is short, and selfish.

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    The very call of the guy’s ancestors saying that Trump deserves medieval French-style royal treatment. I understand him.

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      France burned stuff because the president wanted to increase the age for retirement. Multiple times.

      Who’s the exceptionalist country now?

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        They protested endlessly, and got… Nothing. Peanuts.

        Macron has the government that used the most by very, very far the 49.3 article which is basically a pass to ignore the democratic process. He said quite clearly that democracy has no power against him and it is proven true.

        The fascism in France is just less… frontal, than in the US, but it is there and those little protests, as long as they last, won’t change anything.

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      Been there a few times, and It’s not perfect at all.

      Still I’d pay to visit france while you can’t pay me to go to the usa.

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      let’s see: macron didn’t send terrorists to kill french people on open street ✅ damn, french people seem to be so good at reminding their leaders how they check power that their leaders don’t try that shit… maybe american people need to chop some heads with the ol headchopper

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        They are one or two elections away from an RN president. RN already is the largest party in the assemblée nationale and the “centrists” don’t want to work with the NFP so there exists no clear majority anymore.

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        The police kill people in France too. For example, El Hacen Diarra died in a police station a few days ago.

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          disclaimer: this comment is wrong because i misread a table. it’s 33,5 kills per 10mio in the usa and 5 kills per 10mio in france

          true, but not a good comparison, because i wasn’t talking about the police but ICE. if i was talking about the police however we we still talking about 1000 out of every million inhabitants in the usa killed by the police; in france, 37. yes: france has a problem with police brutality - but what does that say about the usa?

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            These numbers are easily found and already bad enough, why make absurd ones up instead? OP misread

            There were 1200 police-involved deaths in the US last year, not 350,000. A huge number, 6x more than France would have had were the populations equivalent, but not anything like the population of an entire large city being gunned down yearly.

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              you are right, because i misread it and took the wrong column in a table. this was yearly not per million - it’s 33,5 per 10mio. in the usa against 5 per 10mio. in france.

              thanks for pointing it out. i edited the comment

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          yes, we have the same problem in germany. yet we are talking about a completely different magnitude. trumps people literally are the fascists.

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            Yes, it’s one step away from it. And that’s when reaction is needed, not after the nazis start executing people, but yet no one cares

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              Yeah, EU countries really, REALLY, need to check themselves. Our human frailties are their frailties too. Their shit hole populace is rising. We are evidently go to start funding the parties that will be their demise.

              So far, the response to what has been happening has not met the reality of the situation. If I was to bet at this moment, then I would bet that a large part of the EU is going to fall to fascism.