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Isn’t the Ford CEO a big China fan who has been praising Chinese EVs for years?
I’m excited for these to come to Canada.
Ford is going to fail. China will win. China sees the future is electric while Ford is grubbing for bigger profits off IC monsters that people can’t afford anymore.
The moment BYD is allowed in the US. American made cars will be officially dead. The only thing keeping the industry alive is lack of outside competition.
Lack of outside competition? American brands already make up a minority of sales in the US. The majority of sales are brands from elsewhere in the world.
People are just making up talking points at this point.
If that were true, Germany would’ve killed American cars a long time ago.
If that were true, Korea would’ve killed American cars a long time ago.
If that were true, Japan would’ve killed American cars a long time ago.
I mean, China is just the latest competition, we already have a lot of foreign cars in the US. I still think the government will ensure Ford exists simply for domestic manufacturing and security.
It’s the price that make them a game changer.
And that price is fake because the Chinese government is making up the difference between the real price and the price it takes to undercut all the competition. This is how China takes over industries wherever it goes, and once they have control of these industries, the price unsurprisingly shoots up as there is no one left to compete.
Where has this happened?
I don’t think they’ll ever let them sell them at those prices in the US. This is actually one of the times where tarrifs are smart economic policy. Both to protect a critical manufacturing capability and also because there is a lot of evidence that Chinas prices arent sustainable longterm (seems like the car industry may be their next evergrande).
Which is why it will never happen
I don’t see what would stop a state like California from arbitrarily legalizing BYD vehicles just like they did with weed. The current admin has already used up most of the soft leverage actions it has available just to be pissy and ‘they imported China cars!’ would make for a particularly eye-rolling casus belli for the civil war they intend to instigate.
Doesn’t Ford mostly focuss on the American market these days? They don’t make reasonably sized or affordable cars anymore, only oversized pickups and SUVs, which don’t sell well outside of North America.
Meanwhile BYD has the Chinese market already, and is expanding globally, selling relatively affordable EVs.
I’m not exactly surprised that they are outselling FordStellantis, GM, Ford all colluded to stop making lower cost vehicles.
Its not collusion. They just can compete against Japanese and South Korean brands in this segment so all the R&D money designing and building compact cars was going to waste. People would rather buy a Civic or Corolla than a Cruze or Focus.
It’s no like they’re forcing people to buy bigger cars especially considering these brands already make up a minority of sales in the US.
Stellantis does make affordable vehicles though… in Europe…
They own Peugeot, Citroën, Fiat, Opel, etc and they have been making great affordable EVs for a few years now.Stellantis in the US and Stellantis in Europe seem like two entirely different entities that don’t talk to one another.
Compact/Crossover SUVs are hugely popular worldwide, they’ve been replacing sedans/hatchbacks here. I was surprised to learn BYD’s best selling car wasn’t the smaller Dolphin or Seagull, but the Song Plus.
But, yeah, Ford has been focusing on bigass expensive cars here too. Their cheapest (gas) vehicle for this year is more expensive than the BYD Song plug-in hybrid, which is twice the price of the Seagull.
They don’t make reasonably sized or affordable cars anymore,
In Europe they do, and it’s still a reasonably popular brand despite Trump.
North America only gets the tanks.
That must have changed recently then, because last I checked they only really had the Mustang left over.
Ever since they discontinued the Ford Focus and Ford FiestaEdit: Looks like they introduced the Ford Puma since then, and a handfull of SUVs
They still make reasonably sized and priced cars for the UK market.
Nice. Westerners really are getting bad deals so they can make their oligarchs richer.
