This is such hot garbage. Like I’m sorry but people stare and laugh when I bring my wheelchair to the store but then stand to reach a shelf. I’ve so often barely finished shopping out of exhaustion
Have to take a break after entering the store.
Have to take a break halfway through.
Have to take a break before check out.
Have to take a break before parking lot.
Take a longer break recouping in the car because groceries are fucking heavy with a spinal fracture.
Just because someone CAN do a given task doesn’t mean they can do it to the ability level of everyone else. Nor can they do it without longterm consequences, yes I can walk a few blocks, but I’ll be unable to move at all the next three days.
If someone says they can’t do something because of physical limitations, leave them the fuck alone about it and accept people struggle in unseen ways.
To clarify, you were doing the shopping yourself? With the dislocated knee? Because that’s literally what they are saying happened. Not that they dislocated it once and then never returned the carts again. They say clearly below that they are fully mobile and return the carts now. So do you really want to stand by what you’re saying?
Well, I can think of at least two other interpretations off the top of my head, but I’m not really interested in explaining them to you.
At the end of the day, not everyone’s dislocated knee is the same. Doubling down on your position of “oh yeah? Well I got a dislocated knee, too, buddy, and I was still able to function!” is incredibly embarrassing for you, from my perspective.
I’ve never not returned a cart myself.
Sorry you’re such a butthurt loser over a person with a severe injury not returning their shopping cart to the corral. You sound like someone who is terrible to be around. Please never address me again.
Groceries are expensive, should they just cost a $100 more for the disabled? Cause that’s what round-trip Uber costs when you don’t live in a city that doesn’t have adequate public transportation.
Even when the bus runs it’s another physical barrier to carry all those groceries. All this on top of your physical limitations making every other everyday tasks difficult and exhausting.
I’m much more talking from a community standpoint. I would ask family or neighbours to help.
I’m thinking of a different cost factor as well. If one’s knee is so badly hurt that walking 100m is a serious debate, I imagine it isn’t as useful in an emergency brake situation.
So getting groceries might not cost 100$ more, it might cost one’s life.
Not everyone has people they can rely on, homie. At a certain point just accept that there can be a genuinely good reason for not returning a cart instead of doing mental gymnastics to justify a crazy “no tolerance” policy. Literally all that is being asked is that you take that other commenter at face value: it’s not always a 100% judge of character. In the first place, the idea of it being a judge of character is a meme, a joke- anyone with actual character would acknowledge that and also acknowledge that they don’t always know everything and there are exceptions to every rule..
Not everyone has the luxury of not driving themselves despite whatever pain they have. There’s not always a passerby around, and besides, some people just fucking suck (looking at the driver who pulled over for my sibling when their face was caved in during an accident which resulted in like over 60 nose surgeries or something. Said driver literally said “I don’t have time for this, sorry” and left. Didn’t even call emergency services for them).
I’m sorry for your downvotes. I can think of several reasons not to return the cart, with different levels of validity.
I’m almost always alone, not in a hurry, and quite healthy. I will look around for additional carts to return with mine because I recognize that, in the future I might be the one without to privileges. In short: Got chu, fam.
this guy is right and the downvotes are insane. You don’t always know what’s going on. All they are asking is that maybe you don’t judge people so harshly when you don’t understand their situation. Jesus christ.
“No, I refuse! The world is perfect and you should have had a nurse or aide that you could totally afford help you out if it’s such a challenge for you! You were able to run the first half of the mile! Why can’t you finish it out?”
The ironing of assuming the worst, that someone is ableist before using dehumanising language by referring to people as slime. Cant beat it. Dude was temporarily injured anyway.
Every person ever has an excuse to ditch trollies of varying validity. No one would ever answer “because I’m a lazy, inconsiderate arsehole” if asked why they left it. Which can easily explain people assuming he’s one of said people and the downvotes. As someone who’s disabled would say “Im disabled” or something to that effect, not “I hurt my knee”. Much more likely than they hold the physically disabled to the same standard or are assuming “everyone who’s disabled should have an aide”. Get a grip.
Not ironic, morally consistent. There is no paradox of tolerance.
Having a temporary injury still affects ability.
Crazy to expect people with difficulty moving to move more for your sake.
If they are assuming “everyone who’s disabled should have an aide”, well, first off they’re strictly wrong. And secondly? They shouldn’t be making assumptions? Ever heard that saying?
I didn’t make assumptions. I saw someone make ableist statements. I called them ableist. They can retract their ableism at their discretion.
Get a grip. And maybe a more thoughtful argument steeped in logic and rational objectivity.
But is not disabled, by definition and therefore calling people criticising them ableist, is incorrect. Let’s try to keep this based in logic and rational objectivity.
The point that sailed over your head in your further attempt to do what passes as virtue signal by your metric, is that you’re engaging in the same behaviour you’re criticising. Judging people without attempting to understand, hence my attempt to explain they likely are not, as you accuse “assuming all disabled should have aides”. While providing potential reason for why the initial comment was downvoted. Ableism while morally bankrupt and disgusting behaviour doesn’t warrant referring to people as “subhuman slime”.
I’ve had a borked knee before. Sometimes you start the shopping trip and feel fine, but by the time you’ve covered half your list you’re leaning heavily on that shopping cart for support.
I’m lucky my partner was always able to return the cart for me because I’m not sure I could have made it back to the car after returning the cart to the cart stand.
not only lazy and selfish, but obviously dumb both for sharing this and for thinking the explanation makes any sense. also, for not just parking near the fucking corral on the first place
Yes, this is always an option available. There are always parking spots near the corrals, and the corrals are never in the middle of the parking lot, forcing a person with a disability to cover considerably more distance.
I hurt my knee a few years back, not going to return it if it’s too far away. There’s a good reason sometimes, it’s not a 100% judge of character.
If you can push it around the shop full of things, you can put it back while empty.
This is such hot garbage. Like I’m sorry but people stare and laugh when I bring my wheelchair to the store but then stand to reach a shelf. I’ve so often barely finished shopping out of exhaustion
Have to take a break after entering the store. Have to take a break halfway through. Have to take a break before check out. Have to take a break before parking lot. Take a longer break recouping in the car because groceries are fucking heavy with a spinal fracture.
Just because someone CAN do a given task doesn’t mean they can do it to the ability level of everyone else. Nor can they do it without longterm consequences, yes I can walk a few blocks, but I’ll be unable to move at all the next three days.
If someone says they can’t do something because of physical limitations, leave them the fuck alone about it and accept people struggle in unseen ways.
I sincerely hope you never dislocate your knee and still have to go shopping.
You know I actually have dislocated my knee twice. Still have never done that though.
To clarify, you were doing the shopping yourself? With the dislocated knee? Because that’s literally what they are saying happened. Not that they dislocated it once and then never returned the carts again. They say clearly below that they are fully mobile and return the carts now. So do you really want to stand by what you’re saying?
Of course. What else could I mean?
Well, I can think of at least two other interpretations off the top of my head, but I’m not really interested in explaining them to you.
At the end of the day, not everyone’s dislocated knee is the same. Doubling down on your position of “oh yeah? Well I got a dislocated knee, too, buddy, and I was still able to function!” is incredibly embarrassing for you, from my perspective.
I’ve never not returned a cart myself.
Sorry you’re such a butthurt loser over a person with a severe injury not returning their shopping cart to the corral. You sound like someone who is terrible to be around. Please never address me again.
Maybe that wouldn’t happen if people didn’t leave shopping carts around to bump into and fall over.
Or at least ask a passer-by?
If my knee was hurt so much I couldn’t walk right, I wouldn’t be driving a car either.
Groceries are expensive, should they just cost a $100 more for the disabled? Cause that’s what round-trip Uber costs when you don’t live in a city that doesn’t have adequate public transportation.
Even when the bus runs it’s another physical barrier to carry all those groceries. All this on top of your physical limitations making every other everyday tasks difficult and exhausting.
I’m much more talking from a community standpoint. I would ask family or neighbours to help.
I’m thinking of a different cost factor as well. If one’s knee is so badly hurt that walking 100m is a serious debate, I imagine it isn’t as useful in an emergency brake situation.
So getting groceries might not cost 100$ more, it might cost one’s life.
Not everyone has people they can rely on, homie. At a certain point just accept that there can be a genuinely good reason for not returning a cart instead of doing mental gymnastics to justify a crazy “no tolerance” policy. Literally all that is being asked is that you take that other commenter at face value: it’s not always a 100% judge of character. In the first place, the idea of it being a judge of character is a meme, a joke- anyone with actual character would acknowledge that and also acknowledge that they don’t always know everything and there are exceptions to every rule..
Not everyone has the luxury of not driving themselves despite whatever pain they have. There’s not always a passerby around, and besides, some people just fucking suck (looking at the driver who pulled over for my sibling when their face was caved in during an accident which resulted in like over 60 nose surgeries or something. Said driver literally said “I don’t have time for this, sorry” and left. Didn’t even call emergency services for them).
I’m sorry for your downvotes. I can think of several reasons not to return the cart, with different levels of validity.
I’m almost always alone, not in a hurry, and quite healthy. I will look around for additional carts to return with mine because I recognize that, in the future I might be the one without to privileges. In short: Got chu, fam.
I’m fully mobile now and do the same. I think the downvotes are funny, but thanks for the support.
Sure, Adolph, go ahead and tell yourself whatever lies you need to go to sleep at night.
We see you.
/s
this guy is right and the downvotes are insane. You don’t always know what’s going on. All they are asking is that maybe you don’t judge people so harshly when you don’t understand their situation. Jesus christ.
“No, I refuse! The world is perfect and you should have had a nurse or aide that you could totally afford help you out if it’s such a challenge for you! You were able to run the first half of the mile! Why can’t you finish it out?”
Ableist slime.
The ironing of assuming the worst, that someone is ableist before using dehumanising language by referring to people as slime. Cant beat it. Dude was temporarily injured anyway.
Every person ever has an excuse to ditch trollies of varying validity. No one would ever answer “because I’m a lazy, inconsiderate arsehole” if asked why they left it. Which can easily explain people assuming he’s one of said people and the downvotes. As someone who’s disabled would say “Im disabled” or something to that effect, not “I hurt my knee”. Much more likely than they hold the physically disabled to the same standard or are assuming “everyone who’s disabled should have an aide”. Get a grip.
Ableists are subhuman slime.
Not ironic, morally consistent. There is no paradox of tolerance.
Having a temporary injury still affects ability.
Crazy to expect people with difficulty moving to move more for your sake.
If they are assuming “everyone who’s disabled should have an aide”, well, first off they’re strictly wrong. And secondly? They shouldn’t be making assumptions? Ever heard that saying?
I didn’t make assumptions. I saw someone make ableist statements. I called them ableist. They can retract their ableism at their discretion.
Get a grip. And maybe a more thoughtful argument steeped in logic and rational objectivity.
But is not disabled, by definition and therefore calling people criticising them ableist, is incorrect. Let’s try to keep this based in logic and rational objectivity.
The point that sailed over your head in your further attempt to do what passes as virtue signal by your metric, is that you’re engaging in the same behaviour you’re criticising. Judging people without attempting to understand, hence my attempt to explain they likely are not, as you accuse “assuming all disabled should have aides”. While providing potential reason for why the initial comment was downvoted. Ableism while morally bankrupt and disgusting behaviour doesn’t warrant referring to people as “subhuman slime”.
can walk around an entire store shopping with said cart, but can’t spend a fraction of that walking to return it
You guys are some ablist mother fuckers.
I’ve had a borked knee before. Sometimes you start the shopping trip and feel fine, but by the time you’ve covered half your list you’re leaning heavily on that shopping cart for support.
I’m lucky my partner was always able to return the cart for me because I’m not sure I could have made it back to the car after returning the cart to the cart stand.
imagine telling on yourself like this
not only lazy and selfish, but obviously dumb both for sharing this and for thinking the explanation makes any sense. also, for not just parking near the fucking corral on the first place
what a fuckin’ wanker
Yes, this is always an option available. There are always parking spots near the corrals, and the corrals are never in the middle of the parking lot, forcing a person with a disability to cover considerably more distance.
can walk around an entire store shopping with said cart, but can’t spend a fraction if that walking to return it
You were able to run the first 90% of the mile! Why’re you slowing down so much?!