• TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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    Fuck apple. I love that the EU is constantly forcing them to be less shitty. And apple no doubt is super pissed. Being shitty is their business model

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      You’re sort of a one trick pony aren’t you? All full of Apple hate. Must be a bitter life you lead.

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        They didn’t throttle anything. The chip in the iPhone 15 simply isn’t capable of the full speed. 

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          While true, it’s interesting that the SOC in the “pro” models have started adopting a “pro” branding for the first time.

          So it’s quite likely that they will give the equivalent processor minus the “pro” features to the base model next year. I am betting that USB 3.x is a “pro” feature.

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            No, they tend to use last year’s Pro chip in this year’s base model. The A16 only supported USB 2.0 speeds last year in the iPhone 14 Pro model (despite the iPads showing us that Lightning does support USB 3 speeds), and it’s what’s in this year’s iPhone 15 base model.

            The A17 supports higher speed through the USB Bus, so there’s no reason to hold that back for next year’s base model.

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              Yes, I am aware.

              The thing that’s notable this time is that the pro chips are branded with “pro”. This absolutely means that next year the base models will get the same chip except it’s stripped of some features and its “pro” branding. The question is which features. I am betting it’s USB 3.0.

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            So it’s quite likely that they will give the equivalent processor minus the “pro” features to the base model next year

            Actually… that’s unlikely.

            This year’s “Pro” processor is fabricated on TSMC’s 3nm N3B process that has very low yield rates - Apple is apparently taking up 90% of the global production capacity for N3B fabrication even though they only use it with relatively low volume “Pro” chipsets.

            They’ll surely have better yields next year, but it would still be nowhere near enough to put them in the mainstream iPhone models. TSMC has said they have a new process (which will require new chip designs) online now, and that’s what next year’s mainstream iPhones will use. Manufacturing might have already started (for a late next year launch date).

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            Pros are usually the ones who need to transfer massive ProRes video files at high speed. The vast majority of regular users don’t.

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              Not an excuse when pretty much every other phone has it and has had it for many years.

              And the “pro” branding is just branding bullshit anyways. It doesn’t mean anything.

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                  Yes, pretty much every new-ish phone (and old-ish when talking flagship phones)

                  Of course the very cheap budget options don’t.

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                It’s not an excuse, it’s just a reason. If the phone doesn’t have the features you want and you buy it anyway, that’s hardly Apple’s fault.

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                  It’s stupid and it’s apple’s fault for being behind their competitors.

                  It’s not illegal, just fucking stupid.

                  I won’t buy an iPhone anyway because of their software.

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              But that’s exactly why last year’s 14 Pro came under so much criticism for its slow wired connection: the phone itself supported capturing high resolution, high framerate, high bitrate ProRes video, but didn’t have a way of quickly transferring directly over a cable.

              But also, even regular photos and video can take up a big chunk of space, and having a non-cloud option for practically backing up the contents is helpful.

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          “hey they didn’t add a governor to the car, it’s just a shitty motor that they happened to decide not to upgrade”

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            The chip in the iPhone 15 is an upgrade from the iPhone 14. It just doesn’t do what you specifically want it to do. Perhaps you should buy a different phone.

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        Do you really use USB-C to transfer data or to charge your phone? It’s been years since I used it for data, so I don’t think that’s a problem, in a world where cloud is becoming the norm.

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          If you’re using a platform that doesn’t try and force you to do everything wirelessly, a cable that runs full speed is very useful actually

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          You’re being downvoted, but you’re right. The majprity of apples users will not use the port for data. There’s a couple use cases, but they’re all niche

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          Funny enough, I did so just last month. At first I tried it over wireless but it was far too slow. I was moving dozens of GBs of video to my phone. I do that whenever I’m prepping for a plane flight.

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    From a coding perspective, they are all quite distinct. However, I don’t doubt they were using that argument just to weasel out of getting regulated

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          That’s what I mean, would you say iPadOS Safari and iOS Safari don’t share a good chunk of their codebase?

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            The vast majority of the code is WebKit, which is the same across platforms. The UI is a small amount of code compared to WebKit, and even then I’m sure there is a lot of sharing between the iOS and iPadOS versions.

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    This is an apple_enthusiast community. Why are there so many Apple hating trolls on here? Is their life really so harmed by the existence of Apple that they have to spend every waking moment trashing them on an enthusiast community? I feel sorry for them.

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      because it’s on the front page probably.

      besides, it’s not like apple users are staying out of android-‘enthusiast’ communities or behaving any better.

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          This just showed up I’m my feed, I could care less what you use and I’m a android user who never been in a android community. I don’t like corporations playing games to skirt laws though

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      I have many Apple devices across pretty much all of their categories, that doesn’t stop me from being very vocal when in disagree with them.

      Being an Apple user, heck an Apple fan, doesn’t mean that you have to applaud every single thing the company does and never disagree.