It sounds like you supported Hillary and still don’t understand why she lost, so you keep the same approach… In reality, tens of millions of voters actually care who the Dem candidate is. If you feed them a pro-corporate anti-worker center-right tool, they might stay home. That is reality, my friend. Blame them all you want. I would blame the DNC, but you do you.
There was a primary, she won the primary. Sure the DNC tried to sway public opinion, but ultimately the voters gave us Hillary. That is reality my friend.
There’s a difference between supporting the ideology of a candidate, and supporting effective voting. You can blame the DNC for pushing a bad candidate, but the people who’d rather stay home than choose lesser evil deserve the greater evil when they get it.
You play the hand you’re dealt, not the one you wish you had.
She won the primary because the DNC did everything they could to undermine Bernie. Dabbie Wasserman Schultz had already anointed Hillary the chosen one and didn’t want anyone screwing with her plan, democracy be damned.
It was my first primary paying attention as an adult. I turned 18 when Obama had already won in late 2008. The primary process of the Democratic party was shocking to me. The super delegates were just insane to me. I phone banked for Bernie. The entire process is like millions of people pretending that the primary process is not a rigged system. News networks showing massive vote leads for states that hadn’t cast a single vote because of “super delegates”. Over and over just pretending that a candidate had already been chosen. When, well, they had been. We just all were pretending it didn’t.
Then you learn of history of the party. Like what was done to drop Wallace from FDR. You realize that this just how it’s always worked. There is a massive amount of tools used by the political party to pick their preferred candidate in a smoke filled room. They just don’t do that directly. They create all these anti democratic rules and all collectively pretend they are “protecting the party”.
They are protecting the party from winning popular support and being able to win against Trump. That’s all that’s happening. It’s on purpose. They are captured by the same capital interest as the Republicans.
Are you just here to troll? Bernie* had the largest grass roots movement in a generations. Over 100,000 unique people phone banked for him volunteering. Are you European? You sound like you know nothing about how the political process works in the US beyond TV. If you’re from the US you definitely have never actually involved yourself in the political process beyond just voting. So many ignorant comments you keep leaving here.
He overwhelmingly lost in the primary because not enough progressives voted for him in the primary like I did. What part about that don’t you understand?
Again, you’re looking at American elections and pointing to the outcome as your only analysis. I know how voting works mate. But for some reason you are just interjecting useless comments when someone decides to analyze the factors that lead to that outcome?
You have no thoughts beyond “not enough people voted for him”? Is your analysis really that one dimensional? What are you even trying to say? It’s like looking at a basketball game and saying “the team lost because they had less points”. Wow! Very insightful! What other amazing things do you have to tell us?
What in the actual fuck are you talking about? He lost because most democratic primary voters did not vote for him in the primary. I know because I voted for him in the primary.
It sounds like you supported Hillary and still don’t understand why she lost, so you keep the same approach… In reality, tens of millions of voters actually care who the Dem candidate is. If you feed them a pro-corporate anti-worker center-right tool, they might stay home. That is reality, my friend. Blame them all you want. I would blame the DNC, but you do you.
There was a primary, she won the primary. Sure the DNC tried to sway public opinion, but ultimately the voters gave us Hillary. That is reality my friend.
There’s a difference between supporting the ideology of a candidate, and supporting effective voting. You can blame the DNC for pushing a bad candidate, but the people who’d rather stay home than choose lesser evil deserve the greater evil when they get it.
You play the hand you’re dealt, not the one you wish you had.
She won the primary because the DNC did everything they could to undermine Bernie. Dabbie Wasserman Schultz had already anointed Hillary the chosen one and didn’t want anyone screwing with her plan, democracy be damned.
It was my first primary paying attention as an adult. I turned 18 when Obama had already won in late 2008. The primary process of the Democratic party was shocking to me. The super delegates were just insane to me. I phone banked for Bernie. The entire process is like millions of people pretending that the primary process is not a rigged system. News networks showing massive vote leads for states that hadn’t cast a single vote because of “super delegates”. Over and over just pretending that a candidate had already been chosen. When, well, they had been. We just all were pretending it didn’t.
Then you learn of history of the party. Like what was done to drop Wallace from FDR. You realize that this just how it’s always worked. There is a massive amount of tools used by the political party to pick their preferred candidate in a smoke filled room. They just don’t do that directly. They create all these anti democratic rules and all collectively pretend they are “protecting the party”.
They are protecting the party from winning popular support and being able to win against Trump. That’s all that’s happening. It’s on purpose. They are captured by the same capital interest as the Republicans.
Dude nobody voted for Bernie in the primary. He never came close. If his supporters showed up that would be one thing but y’all didn’t.
Are you just here to troll? Bernie* had the largest grass roots movement in a generations. Over 100,000 unique people phone banked for him volunteering. Are you European? You sound like you know nothing about how the political process works in the US beyond TV. If you’re from the US you definitely have never actually involved yourself in the political process beyond just voting. So many ignorant comments you keep leaving here.
He overwhelmingly lost in the primary because not enough progressives voted for him in the primary like I did. What part about that don’t you understand?
Again, you’re looking at American elections and pointing to the outcome as your only analysis. I know how voting works mate. But for some reason you are just interjecting useless comments when someone decides to analyze the factors that lead to that outcome?
You have no thoughts beyond “not enough people voted for him”? Is your analysis really that one dimensional? What are you even trying to say? It’s like looking at a basketball game and saying “the team lost because they had less points”. Wow! Very insightful! What other amazing things do you have to tell us?
What in the actual fuck are you talking about? He lost because most democratic primary voters did not vote for him in the primary. I know because I voted for him in the primary.
I’m not disagreeing with the vote count mate. Do you maybe have any thoughts on WHY he got less votes? Is that ok to ask?
you’re talking about idiots as if they’re something other than fucking idiots. tens of millions? because more idiots make the idiocy more valid? GTFO
i couldn’t care less who you think i should blame. we are fascism now.